Virgin to launch 2Mb Size S

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Nooo - if they are on BB M they won't be offered it !!!

It's for a last ditch for customers on L,XL and XXL - if they end up wanting to disconnect over price or because 'we don't use it that much'

There won't be a BB M soon. it will be 10/20/50 only.
so from what you're saying the 2Mb will be offered at the same price as it is now to 10/20/50.
Will there be a new 12 month contract needed if anybody does take up this offer?

If it's there for people who 'don't use it that much' then why does Virgin feel the need that these people need to have STM applied for such a long period?

[General Maximus]

to prove Ben's point, a couple of month ago I had XL BB and M phone and I was paying £11 a month for the phone and £37 or whatever it is for the internet. I was checking 50mbit availabilility on the VM website and saw an ad for M phone + XL BB for £26 a month. I gave the dudes a ring to find out what was going and why i had been paying so much all this time and they said that that was an offer for new customers but they could do me XL phone, XL BB and M TV (freeview) for £26. I wasn't too fussed about the TV because we already have Sky but I said sure thing and we had it in the bedroom. So as a "deal clincher" I took the TV from the bundle/cost point of view. Everyone wants internet these days no matter what they say and yes 10mbit is a great speed to have if you only do normal stuff, some may genuinely not use the internet that much to justify the cost so sure, let them have their 2mbit for free like M phone and M TV.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Will there be a new 12 month contract needed if anybody does take up this offer?

Yup, when i changed my price i changed package which was a new 12 month contract (which they told me about on the phone) and I warned them that as soon as 50mbit was available i want it and they said no problemo, when i upgraded that would setup a new 12 month contract. So yes, if you change your bundle/package, even if it is to get rid of your 10mbit internet and go back down to 2mbit with whatever tv and phone you have, you will be signing up for a new bundle which will be a new 12 month contract. If you don't want a new 12 month contract dont take the 2mbit and just scrap the internet altogether.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

Yup, when i changed my price i changed package which was a new 12 month contract (which they told me about on the phone) and I warned them that as soon as 50mbit was available i want it and they said no problemo, when i upgraded that would setup a new 12 month contract. So yes, if you change your bundle/package, even if it is to get rid of your 10mbit internet and go back down to 2mbit with whatever tv and phone you have, you will be signing up for a new bundle which will be a new 12 month contract. If you don't want a new 12 month contract dont take the 2mbit and just scrap the internet altogether.

Had to be that really. since the credit crunch started you're seeing loads of companies trying to tie people into extended contracts.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Gary L

There won't be a BB M soon. it will be 10/20/50 only.
so from what you're saying the 2Mb will be offered at the same price as it is now to 10/20/50.

BB L is now the only 10Mbit service you can downgrade to - and that's £25 a month with a phone

BB S with a phoneline is the same price as BB M - which is £3/4 cheaper than BB L

Will there be a new 12 month contract needed if anybody does take up this offer?

Yes - all downgrades with a new bundle price are a new 12 months

If it's there for people who 'don't use it that much' then why does Virgin feel the need that these people need to have STM applied for such a long period?

Because it is also there to try and persuade those last few people on dial up to move across. Even the rubbish STM on S will be better than they can do at the moment

[General Maximus]

I would love to know how many people are left on dialup these days, I thought pretty much everyone has broadband no matter how slow it is. I can't imagine going back to dial up ever again, it is like living in the stone age.

[Tarantella]

Originally Posted by Moldova

This will not be actively sold and will be used as a deal closer and all you will be able to do with it is browse and download email as the will be an STM of 0900 till 2100 7 days a week and when triggered will last for up to 12 hours, so not something you would downgrade to.

Wrong!


You can quite happily listen to iPlayer radio and play computer games at the same time with a 2mb connection.

Low quality iPlayer programmes can be watched too without STM kicking in.


I would be unhappy about being upgraded to 10mb because I might be tempted to watch HQ Iplayer and for sure I would end up stealing other peoples bandwidth and suffer the consequences that might entail.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Tarantella

You can quite happily listen to iPlayer radio and play computer games at the same time with a 2mb connection.

Low quality iPlayer programmes can be watched too without STM kicking in.

could you do that with a 200Mbyte downstream trigger limit - because that is what is on BB S

I would be unhappy about being upgraded to 10mb because I might be tempted to watch HQ Iplayer and for sure I would end up stealing other peoples bandwidth and suffer the consequences that might entail.

Eh? You wouldn't steal anything

[Turkey Machine]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

I would love to know how many people are left on dialup these days, I thought pretty much everyone has broadband no matter how slow it is. I can't imagine going back to dial up ever again, it is like living in the stone age.

I recently helped somebody connect via PAYG dialup because she's miles from the exchange and doesn't want broadband as yet. I suspect if she could get a broadband signal, it'd be in the 1Mbit range.

Also, is S 2Mbit gonna replace those currently on S 512Kbit?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Tarantella

Wrong!


You can quite happily listen to iPlayer radio and play computer games at the same time with a 2mb connection.

Low quality iPlayer programmes can be watched too without STM kicking in.


I would be unhappy about being upgraded to 10mb because I might be tempted to watch HQ Iplayer and for sure I would end up stealing other peoples bandwidth and suffer the consequences that might entail.

Please ask or get the facts before posting Wrong!

As this thread has nothing whatsoever to do with the present 2Mb package it is a new package as spoken about above, this one has a 200 Mb downstream trigger limit between 0900 and 2100,12 hours a day 24/7 and an STM that can last up to 12 hours thats what the new one will have.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine

Also, is S 2Mbit gonna replace those currently on S 512Kbit?

Nope - hopefully there isn't anyone left on 512kbit

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine

I recently helped somebody connect via PAYG dialup because she's miles from the exchange and doesn't want broadband as yet. I suspect if she could get a broadband signal, it'd be in the 1Mbit range.

Also, is S 2Mbit gonna replace those currently on S 512Kbit?

That is still a separate package and they would have to call in to get an upgrade, but many are quite happy with them.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Nope - hopefully there isn't anyone left on 512kbit

We still see the odd one or two.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I want to disconnect, it's too much.
I can put you on this one it's got really heavy restrictions and it's the same price you want to disconnect for.

Sounds great, I'll have it.

I told you Ben could give you the answers.

[Nicosia]

whats th epoint of having this product?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Nicosia

whats th epoint of having this product?

Not much except for the reasons posted above, just a stopgap filler in most scenarios.

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by Tarantella

I might be tempted to watch HQ Iplayer

Go for it dude, that is what technology is for. This time last year I was downloading tv series at 512*384 on my 20mbit connection for my monitor which was 1280*960. Now I have got 50mbits and downloading HD encodings for my widescreen monitor which is 1680*1050. Move with the times, endulge yourself and live life to the full.

[Matth]

All good compared to some other dialup replacement broadbands, what would you rather, 200MB / day STM or 1 / 2 or 3GB per month quota - only thing wrong with it is the price - with Sky, you get the dialup replacement broadband free (if you also take Sky talk).