Cable network expansions

[kpanchev]

Originally Posted by m419

All Virgin Media need to do is offer Voip offering unlimited calls to landlines for £2 per month and hey presto! Bye bye BT!

Have you tried Finarea/Betamax products? I have ditched my landline 3 years ago, never looked back.

[demented]

Whilst I find antoine's piece about expansion fascinating I am very sceptical about this and would like a source. That said 50,000 homes per year is nothing to be sniffed about by those lucky few that might get it but it's a very small number and would probably only make areas a bit more consistent.

VOIP off cable would be ridiculous. Why would cable launch such a product when they make such lavish amounts of money on their phone products (especially the basic ones). Doubt they'd do it.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Turkey Machine, l could not agree with you more, l have been saying this for months, VM seem to be standing still, whilst other companies are increasing.

At the present moment, reading on this forum, that are loads of customers that are unhappy, with the service, we have VM slowing down on increasing channels, whereas Sky is INCREASING HD channels, whereas VM haven't got any, to talk about, l will be open minded about this network, but l regularly go to GY, and the only service, that they can get there is, Sky, Freesat amd that is it, as the signals are so poor, to get business in these parts of the UK, you have to spend, and if you got a cable company in there, you would make a fortune. The biggest problem you have is that, there is not a big company in that area, that would spend a lot of money, to get the service.

Niel Berkett, recently said, that they have a strong cash flow, so why doesn't he spend it, and give the customers, a good quality service that customers can depend on, instead of being in a time space, that doesn't move.

[Andrewcrawford23]

arthur will you give it a rest OK we all know you dnt like virign are doing you will find it gets worse over the next 2 years why because ever company is fancying ogign under

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Andrewcrawford, IF, l didn't like VM, do you think l would still be with VM, after seven years, this forum, is for people to say what they think, and that is precisely what l am saying, VM is a good company, there phone service is excellant, BB is a bit iffy, TV needs improving, if you cannot say, what you think, you might as well give up living.

[Andrewcrawford23]

i a not saying do not say what you think but you constally go on about virign tv not being as good as sky, be honest do you think virign would ever be able to compete on tv with the way it is just now? and lets assuem they do not have any debt they have income of 400-500million deo you think they could? i think they would just about be able to keep up with the big channel but not the smal ones, as for the basics why should they pay over the odds? why do you think we ar ein recession because people spent over the odds for houses and banks gave out to much credit to people who could nto afford it and virign could not afford thebasics at the hgiher rate

[huxleypiguk]

Originally Posted by Graham M

I've never understood this misconception that Sky suddenly stops working when it rains. I've NEVER experienced this, even during Snow and with Hale the size of marbles! Yes it may cause problems for some people but is not always the case.

Guess its what you experience. All I know is that my in laws loose their signal when it rain heavily.

I will believe the Virgin expansion when I see roads being dug up ! I personally think that they will do a BT Vision king of thing for off net

[beeman]

Originally Posted by huxleypiguk

Guess its what you experience. All I know is that my in laws loose their signal when it rain heavily.

most likly there dish is missaligned. if not a bigger dish (as appose to the sky "mini dish") would solve their problem

[m419]

Originally Posted by huxleypiguk

Why no expansion ?

1. Cost. The amount that it would cost v the profit it would return is less than zero
2. Merge BT and Virgin - not a chance. The Monopolies commission wouldn't allow it
3. VOIP on Virgin Media - this supposes that people have broadband and a computer or some sort of VOIP device available. Nor everyone who has phone and/or TV has broadband.
4. CableTel v ntl: v Virgin Media - IMHO Virgin Media are doing a better job of rolling out new stuff and better services than ntl: did. There is a BIG credit squeeze right now so that will slow down, but 20mb broadband, TVOD, V+ are all steps in the right direction. When HDTV actually takes off (as opposed to the small amount of users right now) then they also have the ability to load their OD with HD content.

Will they win over Sky ? No. Will Sky win over Virgin Media ? No. There is a place for both. Personally I like to be able to watch TV when it's raining so I will stick with VM.

Virgin Media is NTL just using the Virgin brand and backed by Virgin Enterprises.

Cable Tel was the first cable company to launch Cable broadband, in fact NTL original areas didn't have as many problems than the ex-C&W franchises. Cable and Wireless neglected the franchises during its ownership and under invested in them, NTL then had to pick up the pieces and slowly intergrate the franchises.

Bare in mind NTL/Virgin Media have had to intergrate all of these franchises:

Nynex
Videotron
BT cable franchises
Telecential
Bell Cable Media
East Coast Cable
Comcast
Diamond Cable

Telewest:

General Cable
Cable London
Birmingham Cable
North West Cable
Yorkshire Cable
Eurobell South West (Devon Cable Media)
Eurobell South East (South Downs Cable)
Telewest orginal areas(United Artists)

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by demented

Whilst I find antoine's piece about expansion fascinating I am very sceptical about this and would like a source.

There's no press release or anything like that. It was in an internal presentation given to me.

That said 50,000 homes per year is nothing to be sniffed about by those lucky few that might get it but it's a very small number and would probably only make areas a bit more consistent.

Ceratainly 50,000 more than at present and a sign that VM is moving forward.

VOIP off cable would be ridiculous. Why would cable launch such a product when they make such lavish amounts of money on their phone products (especially the basic ones). Doubt they'd do it.

VOIP is on the cards, which is why VM have outsourced the operation of there legacy switches to BT, so we can focus on delivering VOIP. Although the project has been pushed back.

IPTV is also an ongoing project

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Originally Posted by m419

Virgin Media is NTL just using the Virgin brand and backed by Virgin Enterprises.

Cable Tel was the first cable company to launch Cable broadband, in fact NTL original areas didn't have as many problems than the ex-C&W franchises. Cable and Wireless neglected the franchises during its ownership and under invested in them, NTL then had to pick up the pieces and slowly intergrate the franchises.

Bare in mind NTL/Virgin Media have had to intergrate all of these franchises:

Nynex
Videotron
BT cable franchises
Telecential
Bell Cable Media
East Coast Cable
Comcast
Diamond Cable

Telewest:

General Cable
Cable London
Birmingham Cable
North West Cable
Yorkshire Cable
Eurobell South West (Devon Cable Media)
Eurobell South East (South Downs Cable)
Telewest orginal areas(United Artists)

Yes we're all familiar with the history of cable in the UK. Don't understand what point you're trying to make

[demented]

I understand cable are working on IPTV and have been for a fair while. The expansion and VOIP is new news on me though. I don't doubt that VOIP will come along some day, but I don't see why virgin would be in a particular hurry as it is often said that it is the broadband and phone outlets that make virgin money.

[DomH]

Originally Posted by ANTOINE

There's no press release or anything like that. It was in an internal presentation given to me.

Ceratainly 50,000 more than at present and a sign that VM is moving forward.

Do you have any idea on what areas are going to get cable? I'd love it if more of warrington got cable.