Which one would you prefer

I kind of see your point kymmy but I also understand you should get what you pay for

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by Toto

I think it should only be deployed based on continual "over-use", not for the casual customer that wants to downloading something big once-in-a-while,while normally keeping well under the current STM criteria.

have to agree.

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by darthlinux

I kind of see your point kymmy but I also understand you should get what you pay for

Yep and everyone gets UPTO thier speed.

The FUP and upto maximum clauses I think have been in the contract for quite a bit now and as such everyone is bound by them..

I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it is simply what it is... Poeple had a chance to jump ship when they changed the contracts to include them...

Yeah I understand the upto statement however before the merger both Telewest and NTL didnt offer upto speeds they offered the speed and that was it why should Virgin change this

[smeagoly1]

Targeting constant high bandwidth users, would be an adavatage. As most say, they will just leave their connection on downloading 24/7.
As VM keep saying it's the top 5% of users. The low users once in a while may hit it, maybe a 24 hour throttle for them. Constant abusers I think an increasing scale of speed restrictions, over time.

I dont see VM doing that as they advertise you can download loads and 24hr restriction would mean the ASA would get involved and slap vm wrist for saying unlimited

[dev]

Originally Posted by darthlinux

I kind of see your point kymmy but I also understand you should get what you pay for

you of all people should know you do *not* pay for 20mb, no residentail isp in their right mind would guarantee a minimum speed.

[MikeyB]

Sorry, cut my post short last night, had more to say but the battery was nearly gone on the laptop & I couldn't be bothered to get the charger out!!!

Anyway...
I've mentioned this before, what smeagoly1 brings up:
From http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t/traffic.html
"moderate the speeds for the top 5% of customers who are downloading and/or uploading an unusually large amount"

Just because on one day a month for example, I download a couple of large files, or large updates, does not put me into the top 5% of downloaders.

Most of the time my connection is used just for browsing & email, the odd Youtube moment, the occasional music track from legal sources but that's about it.
I don't download tv shows or films, nor any Linux distros.
My connection is not on 24/7 dowloading torrents or anything.
It's not used for online-gaming.
Probably puts me nearer the bottom 5% of users to be honest!

And as soon as I go over a limit in a 5 hour time-frame my connection gets cut in half (I'm on 2Mb) for 5 hours.

Why not just target those top 5% and leave the rest of us alone to use our connections?

Originally Posted by smeagoly1

...Constant abusers I think an increasing scale of speed restrictions, over time.

Now I like the sound of that.
I do think it should be monthly limits, not a couple of 5 hour slots every day.
And how about throttling heavy users connections on a scale depending on how much the went over the limit?
A little bit over, only slow it a little for a day or so.
5GB over the limit then slow it right down for weeks!