Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing

[LostintheNW]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

So all those who have just left Virgin to go to any of those six over the BPI letters are in for a shock

Not really as we don't have STM to worry about so can merrily download other things to our hearts content - although I haven't gone to one of those who are signing up for this

[Vegeta]

Will they still know what you are downloading if you using SSL encrypted connections to newsgroups?

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Vegeta

Will they still know what you are downloading if you using SSL encrypted connections to newsgroups?

It's irrelavant to this topic which is about p2p and the BPI using ISP's to chase offendors sharing music.

So downloading on newsgroups is not on-topic

[Horace]

Originally Posted by Vegeta

Will they still know what you are downloading if you using SSL encrypted connections to newsgroups?

No.

[Tarantella]

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"They have signed a memorandum of understanding which commits them to sending "informative letters" to customers whose accounts have been identified by the BPI as being used for filesharing."



Since when did VM start giving information to the BPI?

Originally Posted by Tarantella

Quote

"They have signed a memorandum of understanding which commits them to sending "informative letters" to customers whose accounts have been identified by the BPI as being used for filesharing."



Since when did VM start giving information to the BPI?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...egal-downloads

[Tarantella]

Thanks Maggy.

And do you know when will VM sign an agreement with representatives of the American Film and Software industries, Microsoft and everyone else with a vested interest?

[buckleb]

I thought that Virgin didn't actually give any information to the BPI, but just passed on the letters themselves without revealing the customer details?

Originally Posted by Tarantella

Thanks Maggy.

And do you know when will VM sign an agreement with representatives of the American Film and Software industries, Microsoft and everyone else with a vested interest?

No idea!I personally don't have anyone on the inside at VM.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Tarantella

Thanks Maggy.

And do you know when will VM sign an agreement with representatives of the American Film and Software industries, Microsoft and everyone else with a vested interest?

Probably when threatened by government legislation instead if they don't (which is the main reason the six ISPs have done it)

[Berealwith]

So its ok to sell, sell, sell bandwith get more customers upgrade 4 to 10, 10 to 20. and as what i would call a normal users (someone who has 10/20mb and just checks holiday sites and emails) dont need it, but we'll upgrade anyway,

This has fuel'd the downloaders, most of them had to leave thier pc on all night so with the upgrade they dont have to. the ISP's have created thier own bottleneck it has nothing to do with p2p. its the ISP's who gave the bandwith in the first place

All they want is somebody else they can use/blame other than themselves, a 3rd party and they have it now and it's been on the "BBC".

When will the ISP's have a "code of conduct" for the things that we need ie oversubscribing, UBR upgrades, and Hefty fines for mis-selling "Un-Limited.

And in the big picture "What is 20mb used for" ha ha i see the "20mb your all pirates" lol

Soon the "50mb SUPER PIRATE" will appear.....

[BenMcr]

That seems a bit off topic for this thread

Yes I believe my fellow moderator pointed out that the other VM and BPI filesharing thread got closed because people would not stick to the topic or behave well.

So lets keep to topic please.

[Kymmy]

For clarification.

The BPI whichever method they use gets the IP/DATE and TIME of the person who they have confirmed is file sharing (probably from the P2P networks). They then pass on this information to the ISP's, The ISP's without divulging the users details to the BPI send the user the letters that have already been linked to in this thread.

The only way the BPI will ever get information from the ISP's is via a court case in which they'd have to ask a judge to order an ISP to divulge the information.

Kymmy

[BenMcr]

According to thinkbroadband.com http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...agreement.html

The MPAA has also signed up the goverments 'Memorandum of Understanding' not just the BPI