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Old 17-01-2008, 13:14   #16
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Re: What you won't read in the Mail, Express and Sun tomorrow

I'm on disablity due to my sight problems. But as you say the views of some people is irritating.

Still, if anyone ever has a go at me in person now they usually feel my white stick on their shins now *by accident of course *
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Old 17-01-2008, 13:24   #17
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I'm on disablity due to my sight problems. But as you say the views of some people is irritating.

Still, if anyone ever has a go at me in person now they usually feel my white stick on their shins now *by accident of course *
Sincere sympathies on that. We suffer similar with our child and yes it is very hurtful but something we just have to put up with. Yes the bigots do tend to stick in your mind for obvious reasons but it's important to remind yourself that most people are pretty fair minded.
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Old 17-01-2008, 13:30   #18
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Re: What you won't read in the Mail, Express and Sun tomorrow

From personal experience I can inform you that most immigrant workers on low wages are entitled to, and do receive, Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit, and landlords (buy-to-let especially) milk the system by increasing rents.

Several Czech families I know pay only a tiny fraction of the rent/council tax... the rest is paid by the British Taxpayer.... thus it is mostly taxpayer's money that is lining the pockets of landlords and fuelling the spiralling house price market.
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Old 17-01-2008, 13:39   #19
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Sympathies to you Jefferson i am on incapacity benefit and am routinely judged to be a scrounger. Thats the problem with a nice term like "scrounger" it can be used to attack whatever group you want i guess the wealthy could say anyone paying less then them is a "scrounger" doesn't make it so though does it.
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Re: What you won't read in the Mail, Express and Sun tomorrow

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I'm on disablity due to my sight problems. But as you say the views of some people is irritating.

Still, if anyone ever has a go at me in person now they usually feel my white stick on their shins now *by accident of course *
lol how about a white baseball bat? yes would agree sick people are a very easy target for idiots and governments and most people are fair minded, how do we define fairminded or who defines btw? lol
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Re: What you won't read in the Mail, Express and Sun tomorrow

The important thing is not so much the word used but the intent and context within with which it is used. If more people clarified the latter before drawing their conclusions we'd all be a lot happier
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Re: What you won't read in the Mail, Express and Sun tomorrow

I am going to twist this sorry

hundreds of thousands shame we got no figure but 1% of the population is around 600000 I think so if its under 600000 they have higher proportion of successful claims not to mention a typical wait for a council property is over 3 years so if they were on the same waiting list as everyone else it would be 0%.

Of course I am only speculating as I have no facts.

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From personal experience I can inform you that most immigrant workers on low wages are entitled to, and do receive, Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit, and landlords (buy-to-let especially) milk the system by increasing rents.

Several Czech families I know pay only a tiny fraction of the rent/council tax... the rest is paid by the British Taxpayer.... thus it is mostly taxpayer's money that is lining the pockets of landlords and fuelling the spiralling house price market.
The polish couple in the flat above me moved out on xmas day (thought was weird) we found out yesterday they owed powergen nearly £1300. Glad they gone tho they were very unsociable, bad neighbours very noisy etc.

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Sympathies to you Jefferson i am on incapacity benefit and am routinely judged to be a scrounger. Thats the problem with a nice term like "scrounger" it can be used to attack whatever group you want i guess the wealthy could say anyone paying less then them is a "scrounger" doesn't make it so though does it.
It wouldnt surprise me if the aim of the article is to try and shift into peoples minds the bulk of welfare costings is on ill and disabled people aka incapacity benefit claimants.
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