How Much Debt Are NTL In?

[MysticKiller]

NTL also loose money like this : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...722921003&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...843967238&rd=1

And the digital versions of the above box, are they legal?

[bigitup_j]

well, PPV don't last long on them, only a £30/32 credit limit on the stbs. and the filters stop the boxes from refreshing the credit.

edit: oh yeah, and it's illegal!

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by MysticKiller

And the digital versions of the above box, are they legal?

If they were originally installed as part of an NTL package, NO they are not legal.

[Graham F]

Originally Posted by MysticKiller

grrrr, i wish they would, that way i can get ADSL!! (gotta love that 256k upload at a reasonable price)

what is styopping you getting ADSL now? and how would ntl going bust change that?

[MysticKiller]

Originally Posted by Scooby

what is styopping you getting ADSL now? and how would ntl going bust change that?

Am 14, youngest in my family, so my arguments are hardly heard.

EDIT: If NTL went bust, BT is all we can move back to, and that means ADSL

Re earlier posts - anyone know what happened to the 'real' billion (1,000,000,000,000)? These Yanks get everywhere.

[MysticKiller]

Originally Posted by JohnHorb

Re earlier posts - anyone know what happened to the 'real' billion (1,000,000,000,000)? These Yanks get everywhere.

What do you mean real billion? Americans are buying NTL?

[Richard M]

NTL are a US company...

...but some earlier posts quote the debt in billions of pounds. I just find it a bit annoying that we seem to have accepted the US definition of a billion. (yes I know - off topic!)

[Richard M]

Not to worry.
If you ever get confused by the ridiculous currency conversion rate between US and UK currency, just use the following calculation:
$billion x 2 = £billio n

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Pierre

"operating Profit" yes.

Which shows the company is now being run leaner than ever. The main reason for this "operating profit" is a reduction in overheads and maintenance costs.

Expect more cuts

It's going to be interesting to see what happens when they run out of things to cut. At the moment the guys dealing with networks say cash is non existent for daily maintenance, head counts have been cut to a minimum through redundancy and natural wastage.

Things are already at a point where the company is having difficulty operating, what will happen when they have to make their next round of cuts to keep the figures looking like they are inproving.

Originally Posted by Richard M

Not to worry.
If you ever get confused by the ridiculous currency conversion rate between US and UK currency, just use the following calculation:
$billion x 2 = £billio n

Sorry to be an anoarak, but $billion (US billion) x 2 = £1,000, 000,000 = £0.001B illion(British billion).

I don't think many people would be too pleased if they went to the pub for a pint and were served a US pint!

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by JohnHorb

Sorry to be an anoarak, but $billion (US billion) x 2 = £1,000, 000,000 = £0.001B illion(British billion).

I don't think many people would be too pleased if they went to the pub for a pint and were served a US pint!

Where I work the numerology of MM is regularly used 1Bn would not be put in a report, 1MM would be.

US Pints are can sized 16floz vs 20 fl oz in the UK. Hardly a factor of 1000 smaller!

[themelon]

Originally Posted by MysticKiller

Am 14, youngest in my family, so my arguments are hardly heard.

EDIT: If NTL went bust, BT is all we can move back to, and that means ADSL

I wish BT would go bust...........god that company make me fume, id rather gouge my eyes out with sticks instead of dealing with their extreme incompetance ever again.

I wouldnt get too excited about the upload speed.........especially when the download speed is generally much lower than advertised. Unless you upload a vast amount of files........it really makes little difference.

[MysticKiller]

Originally Posted by themelon

I wish BT would go bust...........god that company make me fume, id rather gouge my eyes out with sticks instead of dealing with their extreme incompetance ever again.

I wouldnt get too excited about the upload speed.........especially when the download speed is generally much lower than advertised. Unless you upload a vast amount of files........it really makes little difference.

Yes, i do upload heavily, and NTL are no good for this