abortion under the spotlight. - Page 2

Russ · 06-04-2004, 11:01

No problem - let's hug

Anyway, we're getting off-topic....

**Maggy** · 06-04-2004, 11:05

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Originally Posted by kronas

channel 4 is to screen footage of abortions including a 'pump' abortion and a 4 week old foetus on a petri dish.

the program will also contain foetal remains of pregnancies of 7,10,11, and 21 weeks......

the show is to be screened on april 20th

source: BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/3600621.stm

so, should aborted foetus be shown in graphic images on tv ?

is channel 4 scaremongering people in to not aborting...........

I wonder if C4 will show or represent the other side of the equation anytime soon?

Incog.

Ramrod · 06-04-2004, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

I wonder if C4 will show or represent the other side of the equation anytime soon?

Incog.

Ha! Pigs will fly first

07-04-2004, 20:41

Sorry to bump this up, but i actually remember seeing this during Religious Education at school (they were trying to prove the point that a feutus is a human), its not very nice, but it did make me think about abortion more, and when i someone does mention abortion, i do think of it straight away.

wheeliebin · 07-04-2004, 20:55

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Originally Posted by imback

I'm a parent and I find this no more upsetting than seeing war on the TV, or reading reports on child abuse in the papers etc etc etc

I wont be watching it myself.

But if it makes (even a small percentage) think twice before having unprotected sex/contraception then i think it will have served some purpose. Its too easy for many to not actually think of whats happening in terms of human life IMHO.

I hope im not judging anyone here and i know it isnt a black and white case that we are discussing here, but a lot of people in todays society dont take proper responsibilty for their actions.

07-04-2004, 21:43

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Originally Posted by col d

Sorry to bump this up, but i actually remember seeing this during Religious Education at school (they were trying to prove the point that a feutus is a human), its not very nice, but it did make me think about abortion more, and when i someone does mention abortion, i do think of it straight away.

That question - when is a foetus 'human'? is key to this debate, imo, - and I don't mean to upset anyone who has expressed a personal reason why they find this subject distressing.

My personal opinion is that the 'life' of a person does start at the moment of conception.

The comments by wheeliebin, were apt, too

- so, stopping the need for abortions & diverting the resource to help prevent miscarriage, for example, would be a good thing - wouldn't it?

Ramrod · 07-04-2004, 21:49

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Originally Posted by homealone

- so, stopping the need for abortions & diverting the resource to help prevent miscarriage, for example, would be a good thing - wouldn't it?

Very good point but it fails to take into account human nature

aliferste · 07-04-2004, 22:06

In this day and age, there is really no need to have an abortion, what with the morning after pill. But then there are times its called for I suppose.......wouldnt hold it against anyone if they did.

Showing this on the telly, hmmmmmm dont think its "right" somehow!

kronas · 07-04-2004, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Kronas you have as much right to post here as anyone else but one day when you have kids of your own you'll know how upsetting viewing this sort of thing or even just posting a link to it is for us parents. This is a discussion forum and we talk about almost anything but that doesn't mean we have to feel comfortable about it.

oh russ, lets not talk about the war because people find it disturbing, lets not talk about murder because people find it distressing, just because i have not been through something does not automatically discredit mine or anyone elses view, this topic can be discussed at any length, we talk about all topics on the forum, if it disturbs someone then DONT READ IT.

i think channel 4 are scaremongering people out of abortion, maybe trying to stir a media interest IN MY VIEW

also a foetus once it attempts to form is a sign of life initself

Xaccers · 07-04-2004, 22:13

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Originally Posted by aliferste

In this day and age, there is really no need to have an abortion, what with the morning after pill. But then there are times its called for I suppose.......wouldnt hold it against anyone if they did.

Showing this on the telly, hmmmmmm dont think its "right" somehow!

Um, condoms aren't 100% and some women aren't able to take the pill, so by the time they find out they're pregnant it's too late for the MAP

Chris W · 07-04-2004, 22:13

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Originally Posted by aliferste

In this day and age, there is really no need to have an abortion, what with the morning after pill. But then there are times its called for I suppose.......wouldnt hold it against anyone if they did.

Showing this on the telly, hmmmmmm dont think its "right" somehow!

I see what you mean.... but a friend of mine, used a condom, his wife was on the pill, and it was the right time of the month to be safer, but yet she still got pregnant.

would you find that an abortion was acceptable in these circumstances?

kronas · 07-04-2004, 22:16

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Originally Posted by monkeybreath

would you find that an abortion was acceptable in these circumstances?

the only acceptable cause for a abortion for me, would be if the mothers life was in danger, apart from that you reap what you sow

Xaccers · 07-04-2004, 22:19

I think the final decision is up to the mother, and as her partner you should support her in that decision no matter what your personal feelings are.

kronas · 07-04-2004, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

I think the final decision is up to the mother, and as her partner you should support her in that decision no matter what your personal feelings are.

yes agreed, but there can be over suppressive people (men) who tend to try and make the decision go there way interms of aborting.......

Halcyon · 07-04-2004, 23:29

I'd think abortions wether you agree or disagree with it, are a tough time for anyone in that situation and the fact of putting it out on TV is not a great idea.
ARe they really trying to educate us and offer health advice by showing this ? I think not.
They want to entertain and make money and thats why they will be showing this IMO.
Which is pretty sad really.
The same goes with footage of people being blasted off by guns in the wars.
Who pays the most gets the footage.
I think this is just wrong. There are some things which should just not be filmed.