[Merged] The Football Thread 2005/2006 Season - Page 175

gazzae · 09-05-2006, 11:12

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Howard to join Everton on loan

Manchester United keeper Tim Howard will join Everton on a 12-month loan deal this summer.

After arriving from Major League Soccer outfit New York Metrostars in 2003, Howard initially appeared to be the answer to United's long-standing goalkeeping problems. However, high-profile blunders in European games at the end of his first season with the club and the start of his second put the US star's place at risk.

Despite those problems, and his recent omission, Sir Alex Ferguson remains a big admirer of a player who has played 77 times for the Red Devils.

And, with Van der Sar's contract due to expire in 12 months' time, the United boss has sanctioned a loan move to Goodison Park during which he expects the keeper to prove he is worthy of reclaiming United's number one jersey again.

http://www.football365.com/news/story_184934.shtml

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'Ruud out after Ronaldo dad jibe'

More details emerged last night of the sensational training ground bust-up that has resulted in the seemingly inevitable departure of Ruud van Nistelrooy from Manchester United.

A training ground bust-up between the two in January ended with punches being thrown, and a second incident on Saturday morning reignited the ill-feeling between the two players.

During 'a heated exchange' Van Nistelrooy told the young Portuguese to go and talk to "his dad" - a disparaging reference, says The Independent, to United assistant manager Carlos Queiroz.

The remark carried particular sting, as Ronaldo lost his father in September - a bereavement that has been widely seen as responsible for the very loss of form earlier in the season that Van Nistelrooy was so critical of. A 'clearly upset' Ronaldo replied that he 'did not have a dad'.

http://www.football365.com/teams/man...y_184927.shtml

sherer · 09-05-2006, 11:19

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Originally Posted by orangebird

Going by your theory then, he could be absolute ****e, but as long as he's played more games than any of the current strikers in the Prem, it's OK?

no what we are saying is that he needs to play games in the prem against world class players and be tested at a higher level before he should get into the england squad.. if he had played 18 games in the championship and scored 30 goals it might be a different story but 5 goals against weak defenders isn't alot for a striker

Wenger didn't think he was good enough and couldn't take the pressure to play for them at the end of the season which i think says alot

also surely the england manager should at least of seen him play in a full competitive match, or am i just being stupid there ?

nffc · 09-05-2006, 11:25

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Yes he has. Rooney had played 26 games in the Premiership before his debut v Australia in 02/2003. (Next tournament was a season after)

Before Owen's debut in Feb 1998 (v Chile) he had played 33 games in the Premiership. (Next tournament that season).

Walcott has only played 21 games, in the Championship, for Southampton. In my book that's substantially less. A player who hasn't played yet for his club or even in a top flight game. At least both Owen and Rooney had played, and scored, both for their Premiership club and for England before the world cup/Euros. Walcott has done neither.

Comparing Walcott with Owen and Rooney is like comparing Pele with David Johnson (ie laughable). Mind you, even David Johnson has caps/goals (for Jamaica) and has played in the Premiership (for Ipswich).

Going by your theory then, he could be absolute ****e, but as long as he's played more games than any of the current strikers in the Prem, it's OK?

Well would you take a striker to play against the world's finest defences (OK, Sweden, Paraguay and T+T) whose only experience is 21 games in the second tier?

It's not just about ability it's about the experience and having proved yourself at the highest level before being selected.

Selecting Walcott is no more than selecting a lower division player for England. You wouldn't take Richard Cresswell would you? At least if Andy Johnson was going to be picked, he's played in the Premiership. Pearce and Merson were also picked for internationals when in the lower division but at least they had played in the side (and in Pearce's case, in a semi final of a world cup) and in the top flight beforehand.

If you honestly think picking a player with practically no experience, or actually none in the top flight or international level, as potentially the second striker in the side is a good idea then I dunno.

In fact, I'd rather take someone like Harewood, Beattie or even Defoe or Vassell because all of them have top flight or England experience. Walcott does not - yet - but does look an exciting prospect. He's 17. Maybe in 2 years time he'll be international quality. What about if he's the next Danny Cadamarteri?

If you honestly think this is all a good idea then really I think you should get one of these.
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akane1984 · 09-05-2006, 11:41

hm, what then happens if van der sar gets injured lol touch wood but we wouldn't have much cover if howards out on loan.

Russ · 09-05-2006, 11:47

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If you honestly think this is all a good idea then really I think you should get one of these.
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Greenie on its way for giving me the biggest laugh of the week so far

gazzae · 09-05-2006, 11:51

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Originally Posted by akane1984

hm, what then happens if van der sar gets injured lol touch wood but we wouldn't have much cover if howards out on loan.

I would imagine Foster will be number 2, he is having a good season at Watford.

akane1984 · 09-05-2006, 12:01

i thought he may go on loan again

gazzae · 09-05-2006, 12:07

Either him or Steele will be number 2 I imagine.

akane1984 · 09-05-2006, 12:12

gazzae take it your united fan? who do you think we need for midfield for summer.

Nugget · 09-05-2006, 12:16

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Originally Posted by akane1984

gazzae take it your united fan? who do you think we need for midfield for summer.

So, just to clarify - you definitely don't want Djemba-Djemba back then

gazzae · 09-05-2006, 12:28

Reo-Coker would be a good signing.

I think this would be a good team

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            Van der Sar

Neville  Ferdinand  Vidic  Henize

Solskjaer  Reo-Coker  Scholes  Ronaldo

        Rooney
             
                 Saha

TheDaddy · 09-05-2006, 12:33

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Originally Posted by gazzae

Reo-Coker would be a good signing.

I think this would be a good team

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            Van der Sar
 
Neville  Ferdinand  Vidic  Henize
 
Solskjaer  Reo-Coker  Scholes  Ronaldo
 
        Rooney
 
                 Saha

Looks light weight in midfield

gazzae · 09-05-2006, 12:43

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Looks light weight in midfield

Depends if Fergie can do to Ronaldo what Maureen did to Joe Cole.

You never know maybe Scholes will finally learn how to tackle

As for Reo-Coker I think he has a lot of potential.

And we all know what Rooney is like at dropping back to win the ball.

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Parker is another player we should be looking at, if he hadn't caught glandular fever I bet he would have been in the England squad

TheDaddy · 09-05-2006, 12:46

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Depends if Fergie can do to Ronaldo what Maureen did to Joe Cole.

You never know maybe Scholes will finally learn how to tackle

As for Reo-Corker I think he has a lot of potential.

You are right about Reo-Coker, he is on stand by for the World Cup to. Also what about this Vidic, is he up to the premiership I have heard he is awfully slow.

gazzae · 09-05-2006, 12:55

I think once he settles he will be a good signing. He was part of the so-called "Famous Four" defence that conceded only 1 goal during qualifying for the world cup. It's been claimed that Vidic is the best of the four.