[Merged] The Football Thread 2005/2006 Season - Page 174

nffc · 09-05-2006, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Have you had permission from Nugget to post that??

Who he?

Imodium's on tap... well, lasagne.

Russ · 09-05-2006, 00:18

Nugg!! Your forum needs you!

TheDaddy · 09-05-2006, 00:21

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Originally Posted by nffc

They just refused to accept that their dreams were flushed down the toilet. The whole affair makes me sick to be honest, then again, let's not get too bogged down discussing it all. I suppose the HSE, Met and the relevant lawyers will get down to digesting the evidence before deciding where to bring up the decision.

On another note. No Marlon

and Theo ficking Walcott who has done WHAT?

Top quality toilet humour there. As for Marlon I speak as a West Ham fan, he is just not good enough, granted if the likes of Bent, Heskey, Johnson ect are worth a cap then he is to, sadly he lacks that little bit of extra class, one thing I will say for him though is he has a lot of bottle, he had a pretty torrid time last year, what with being played on the right wing, the fans started to turn on him and he battled on and his hard work has been rewarded this season.

Nugget · 09-05-2006, 08:39

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Originally Posted by yesman

It has now become obvious why you follow Villa

For me Wes Brown has been one, if not the most consistant player for United this season, but I don't suppose you get to see them that often.

But of course you are entitled to your opinion

Well, as a Villa fan, I've come to recognise rubbish when I see it

As I've said, it's just my opinion - Brown may have been consistent, but it doesn't mean he's been consistently good

In fairness, I think he's missed his chance as as result of injuries and loss of form from a couple of seasons ago - unfortunately, Sven's shown a tendency to stick with what he knows in the past so, when Brown hasn't been available, he's slipped down the pecking order

akane1984 · 09-05-2006, 09:28

well looks like ruuds on way out saw on sky sports news this morning before heading to work that meetings were held yesterday and today before testimonial tonight about ruuds future.

its now well known thanks to press what the issues were with ruud, bust ups in training, moodiness. best to get him out am afraid if hes affecting morale.

iadom · 09-05-2006, 09:45

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Originally Posted by gazzae

To be fair the two players that got sent off each got a yellow for kicking the ball away.

The second player sent off, Creswell should have gone five minutes earlier when he trampled on the keeper, sparking the mini brawl that led to two other Leeds players being booked, the keeper has a suspected fractured cheekbone, also the ref missed one of the worst tackles from Douglas that led to Preston's Brett Ormerod being stretchered off after 11 minutes with a suspected broken leg. The ghost of Billie Bremner and Norman Hunter is alive and well in this Leeds side.

orangebird · 09-05-2006, 09:48

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Originally Posted by nffc

<SNIP>On another note. No Marlon

and Theo ficking Walcott who has done WHAT?

Walcott has done not a lot less than Owen or Rooney had done before their intl debuts. I think it's an exciting choice.

Nugget · 09-05-2006, 09:50

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Originally Posted by akane1984

well looks like ruuds on way out saw on sky sports news this morning before heading to work that meetings were held yesterday and today before testimonial tonight about ruuds future.

its now well known thanks to press what the issues were with ruud, bust ups in training, moodiness. best to get him out am afraid if hes affecting morale.

Well, he's obviously miserable - he's always got such a long face...

*ahem*

sherer · 09-05-2006, 09:53

well i suggested AJ who has at leat played and scored 20 goals in the prem and now Sven picks someone he has has said he has only seen play on video 3 times

At least he's seen AJ play and he is a proven striker as is Defoe

must be hard to earn 5m a year

Lennon and Downing i agree with although Downing has missed alot of the season

read this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/4752671.stm

Sven has seen him play about three times in training

If that's all it takes to get in the England squad i'd better book some holiday for June as i might get a call up

gazzae · 09-05-2006, 10:55

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Originally Posted by orangebird

Walcott has done not a lot less than Owen or Rooney had done before their intl debuts. I think it's an exciting choice.

Quite a bit less if you ask me.

Rooney had played 20 odd games for Everton before he made his England debut, what made him most people aware of him - his goal against Arsenal - was 5 months before his debut. Owen had a full season at Liverpool before he made his.

But I agree, it is exciting I look forward to seeing him play. Especially after stealing him from Arsenal for my Newcastle team in Football Manager.

orangebird · 09-05-2006, 10:57

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Originally Posted by gazzae

Quite a bit less if you ask me.

Rooney had played 20 odd games for Everton before he made his England debut, what made him most people aware of him - his goal against Arsenal - was 5 months before his debut. Owen had a full season at Liverpool before he made his.

But I agree, it is exciting I look forward to seeing him play. Especially after stealing him from Arsenal for my Newcastle team in Football Manager.

I don't see why someone has to 'prove' themselves by having a season etc behind them. If you're talented, that's that. I can't wait to see it all in action. Really excited - he could be our secret weapon.

nffc · 09-05-2006, 11:02

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Originally Posted by nffc

<SNIP>On another note. No Marlon

and Theo ficking Walcott who has done WHAT?

Walcott has done not a lot less than Owen or Rooney had done before their intl debuts. I think it's an exciting choice.

Yes he has. Rooney had played 26 games in the Premiership before his debut v Australia in 02/2003. (Next tournament was a season after)

Before Owen's debut in Feb 1998 (v Chile) he had played 33 games in the Premiership. (Next tournament that season).

Walcott has only played 21 games, in the Championship, for Southampton. In my book that's substantially less. A player who hasn't played yet for his club or even in a top flight game. At least both Owen and Rooney had played, and scored, both for their Premiership club and for England before the world cup/Euros. Walcott has done neither.

Comparing Walcott with Owen and Rooney is like comparing Pele with David Johnson (ie laughable). Mind you, even David Johnson has caps/goals (for Jamaica) and has played in the Premiership (for Ipswich).

sherer · 09-05-2006, 11:04

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Originally Posted by orangebird

I don't see why someone has to 'prove' themselves by having a season etc behind them. If you're talented, that's that. I can't wait to see it all in action. Really excited - he could be our secret weapon.

surely a pre requisite for playing for england should be playng football first ??

Rooney scored that goal against Arsenal at 16 and had played about 20 games.. anyone got the stats on number of goals he had scored

owen had played a full season

pele had played about 2 seasons before the WC

All the above had played in the top flight as well.. Walcott has played about 13 starts and 18 subs and only got 5 goals against championship level teams

i was told AJ shouldn't be in the squad as he plays in the championship but at the moment so does Thoe.. Arsene didn't think he was good enough and couldn't take the pressure to play him for Arsenal in their final games

gazzae · 09-05-2006, 11:05

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Originally Posted by orangebird

I don't see why someone has to 'prove' themselves by having a season etc behind them. If you're talented, that's that. I can't wait to see it all in action. Really excited - he could be our secret weapon.

Then why didn't Arsene Wenger want to risk playing him? Arsene said that at the end of the season where every point matters you need experienced players.

I have no doubt that he's talented, but is he ready for a World Cup if his manager doesn't yet think he is ready for the premiership?

orangebird · 09-05-2006, 11:06

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Originally Posted by nffc

Yes he has. Rooney had played 26 games in the Premiership before his debut v Australia in 02/2003. (Next tournament was a season after)

Before Owen's debut in Feb 1998 (v Chile) he had played 33 games in the Premiership. (Next tournament that season).

Walcott has only played 21 games, in the Championship, for Southampton. In my book that's substantially less. A player who hasn't played yet for his club or even in a top flight game. At least both Owen and Rooney had played, and scored, both for their Premiership club and for England before the world cup/Euros. Walcott has done neither.

Comparing Walcott with Owen and Rooney is like comparing Pele with David Johnson (ie laughable). Mind you, even David Johnson has caps/goals (for Jamaica) and has played in the Premiership (for Ipswich).

Going by your theory then, he could be absolute ****e, but as long as he's played more games than any of the current strikers in the Prem, it's OK?