[Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds Late Summer 2004

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

remembering of course that you agreed in the t&cs that you would only use 3 devices (excluding router/ hardware firewall) on your BB connection.

Of course ....

[mrmassive]

like 1 pc 1 monitor and 1 keyboard and the mouse. Id better disconnect my printer lol

[Tristan]

I'm still confused. I reckon I'm 99% of the way to being the Average Broadband User. I surf the web. I send e-mails. I use instant messengers. I play XBox Live, and even the occasional game of Counter-Strike on the PC. I download MP3s (legal of course), video files and game demos. I can honestly say that the oh-so-terrible cap has never crossed my mind.

Please could somebody explain to me how NTL's announcement is a bad thing for me? Because for all I can see, it's positive. And yet here we are, with 17 pages of people complaining. I just don't get it.

[and®ew]

Incase people didnt know.

Everyones Broadband connection will be getting a 50% speed increase this summer free of charge.....

please click on the link for more information.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04...est_broadband/

Originally Posted by Tristan

And yet here we are, with 17 pages of people complaining. I just don't get it.

not everyone is complaining ....

[Florence]

Incase anyone hadn't noticed 50% isn't being given.

150K goes to 300K yes 100% extra. double....

600K goes to 750K if my maths is right you are not getting 50% more.. this needed to be 900K so come on NTL are 600K getting 50% more or is this the short change..

1mb goes to 1.5mb ==== 50% more...

[mrmassive]

No one here complains???????

You get offered something for free
You pay for it
Then your told you cant use it to its fully potentional

No one here complains

No Never

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by mrmassive

No one here complains???????

You get offered something for free
You pay for it
Then your told you cant use it to its fully potentional

No one here complains

No Never

But to use it to it's full potential (24/7 downloading) you either have to have very deep pockets or be infringing copyright laws all the time. Lets take a wild guess at which of those two options is most likely to be occurring :pp . You are, in effect, saying that people should be bitching because they are not being allowed to break the law as much as they would like to

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

But to use it to it's full potential (24/7 downloading) you either have to have very deep pockets or be infringing copyright laws all the time. Lets take a wild guess at which of those two options is most likely to be occurring :pp . You are, in effect, saying that people should be bitching because they are not being allowed to break the law as much as they would like to

, nuff said , rep is on its way for that

[mrmassive]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

But to use it to it's full potential (24/7 downloading) you either have to have very deep pockets or be infringing copyright laws all the time. Lets take a wild guess at which of those two options is most likely to be occurring . You are, in effect, saying that people should be bitching because they are not being allowed to break the law as much as they would like to

Did I say That!!!!!!!!!! .Or did I could it be a few game demos a few movie trailers maybe some anti virus update maybe windows update and then maybe some online gameing or perhaps new drivers for me 5950 ultra card . This is going off the topic lets get back on it.

Its good to have a increase in bandwidth whether you use it or not or how you use it. The xtra speed might help when your on ebay and put in that final bid 15 secs before it finishes

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by mrmassive

Did I say That!!!!!!!!!! .Or did I could it be a few game demos a few movie trailers maybe some anti virus update maybe windows update and then maybe some online gameing or perhaps new drivers for me 5950 ultra card.

Mmmmmm...I can see that....I must have been mistaken

[DrAwesome]

Originally Posted by dremmel

as usual let us "wait and see"

!perhaps! this speed increase will work without the whole network suffering a meltdown.

!perhaps! the "Upgraded Newsgroup platform now being rolled out" will enable those of us who suffer from resticted NG access to use a 'proper' service.

!perhaps! the "Upgraded email service to be rolled out in May" will not suffer from the usual complaints regarding the NTL email service

!perhaps! those pigs I have in the hangar will at last be able to fly

!perhaps! the experiance of downloading from the NTL binary Newsgroups at 187.5kb/s will be fun

[erol]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

But to use it to it's full potential (24/7 downloading) you either have to have very deep pockets or be infringing copyright laws all the time. Lets take a wild guess at which of those two options is most likely to be occurring :pp . You are, in effect, saying that people should be bitching because they are not being allowed to break the law as much as they would like to

Oh please not this old chestnut again.

Yes many people infringe copyright with their BB conncetions but to state this is the _only_ reasons why a user might have large downlaod volumes is ridiculous.

In addition to all the standard legal uses so often given as examples I will add a couple of new(ish) ones.

I want to use my BB connection to recieve or send videostreams from my own privately owned cameras (in porpery of mine in other locations, to my families house etc etx).

I want to use my BB connection to set up a VPN between my friends and family, where I can share their data and files and they mine as if we were on an office LAN.

You presumably are of the view that such legal applications and uses (along with 1000s of others) should be prohibited because some people steal movies and music?

Increase average usage of BB is probably the single most important 'metric' in terms of promoting BB and its usage (as government policy says it widhes to do) and building a BB britain.

You do not limit crime that invovles the use of postal services by limiting how many letters people can send. You do not limit crimes that involve cars by limiting how much people can drive. So can we end this ridiculous idea that we should limit crimes that use the internet by limiting internet usage - once and for all? Please !

Originally Posted by erol

Oh please not this old chestnut again.

Yes many people infringe copyright with their BB conncetions but to state this is the _only_ reasons why a user might have large downlaod volumes is ridiculous.

In addition to all the standard legal uses so often given as examples I will add a couple of new(ish) ones.

I want to use my BB connection to recieve or send videostreams from my own privately owned cameras (in porpery of mine in other locations, to my families house etc etx).

I want to use my BB connection to set up a VPN between my friends and family, where I can share their data and files and they mine as if we were on an office LAN.

You presumably are of the view that such legal applications and uses (along with 1000s of others) should be prohibited because some people steal movies and music?

Increase average usage of BB is probably the single most important 'metric' in terms of promoting BB and its usage (as government policy says it widhes to do) and building a BB britain.

You do not limit crime that invovles the use of postal services by limiting how many letters people can send. You do not limit crimes that involve cars by limiting how much people can drive. So can we end this ridiculous idea that we should limit crimes that use the internet by limiting internet usage - once and for all? Please !

Add new reasons all you want. It will not change my mind i know why i have 1 meg and dont mind being truthfull about it. I use it to download lots of stuff of the net there i gone and done it now

[Vegeta]

I think people on 600k BB should get a 50% speed boost so its 900k and not 750k...