[Merged] Ronaldo

[Mal]

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Yup, but as he had to come back to Man U after the cup it would have been nice for Man U to stick up for their player that was being ferociously attacked by a bitter English media.

Why should Ronaldo be expected to stick by a "team" and a "club" that kept quiet whilst his name was dragged through the mud within the country he plays in; whilst he is abroad doing his best for his country?

Do you think Ronaldo was planning on leaving Man U before the dogs that call themselves fans of football set upon him?

Why should he expect United to stick up for him though?

He is a big boy now, responsible for his own actions. He did it not playing for his club, but for his country.

What would United say? "Please lay off Ronaldo, he's a good lad really"?

Please note the date on this report. It was prior to the England match. So yes, I think that he was planning on leaving.

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Fristly and lets clear this up

Sorry - I wasn't aware that there was anything that needed clearing up.

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

If Sven had listened to me you might have got a bit further in the world cup.

If Sven had listened to you? Are you his personal assistant or something now?

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Go and review it if you like, you will see in my last few posts that i summed it all up for you in a nice "hard to swallow" portion.

I've read your posts thanks. Because you have summed it up, I have to agree to your ways of thinking? I have to or others see your views as the final thought on the matter. I don't have to nor do others have to do such thing.

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Now to your other points, is it right that irrespective of what the other players did to rooney that Ronaldo should be hounded out of a country where he makes a living

Now to my other points? I wasn't aware I had made such a point - please state where I had, then you can raise this question to me.

FYI - I merely stated that, I know a cheat when I see one. If a professional and international soccer player has to keep diving in the penalty area and making it look like he was pushed or shoved or whatever, its trying to rob the opposing team, a goal - this isn't a football game, where players, play a 'true' game of soccer and its a sad state of affairs and Ronaldo only has himself to blame for gaining such a 'Cry wolf' reputation.

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Im a football fan, not a thug, not a racist, not bitter and i know where the boundaries lie, maybe your happy to live in a society like that, but im not.

Again, another issue you have raised with me that has absolutely no relevance to what I have posted.

If your going to hold a 'proper' debate with me - try to go over the points 'I' made not what others may or may not of posted.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

Sorry - I wasn't aware that there was anything that needed clearing up.

If Sven had listened to you? Are you his personal assistant or something now?

If your going to hold a 'proper' debate with me - try to go over the points 'I' made not what others may or may not of posted.

He would probably do a better job than Tord Grip or do you mean Faria Alam and we all know what he used to do to her

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Mick

but I know a cheat, when I see one, oh and a bit of a drama queen as well, a dive here, a dive there, "Please give us a penalty ref" - Ronaldo fits into this category big time-end of.

The thing that makes me laugh is that England fans pretend to be on some serious crusade about diving, but where are all the posts slagging off Gerrard for diving in a meaningless friendly match to win a penalty before the World Cup? Don't remember many England fans being too upset when they beat the Argies via a Owen dive.

Fact is the world cup has been full of diving and cheating not just from Ronaldo, why does he get singled out?

[TheDaddy]

He is the most blatant, the worst since Klinnsman imo

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He is the most blatant, the worst since Klinnsman imo

Aaahh I see. It's ok to cheat as long as you aren't blatant about it?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by gazzae

Aaahh I see. It's ok to cheat as long as you aren't blatant about it?

It's never all right to cheat, some people make it more of a habit than others

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It's never all right to cheat, some people make it more of a habit than others

Like Gerrard?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by gazzae

Like Gerrard?

I hardly think they are in the same league when it comes to play acting, Ronaldo dives more times in a match than some players pass the ball, if he tripped in the tunnel he would appeal for a free kick.

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I hardly think they are in the same league when it comes to play acting, Ronaldo dives more times in a match than some players pass the ball, if he tripped in the tunnel he would appeal for a free kick.

And is Ronaldo solely to blame for that or is a culture thing? Look at Mourinho's Porto team, they dived all over the place.

Anyway I can think of loads of occasions where Gerrard has dived.

Here is a Gerrard special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIzawprkcHo&mode=related

Originally Posted by gazzae

Fact is the world cup has been full of diving and cheating not just from Ronaldo, why does he get singled out?

Don't ask silly questions. Dear me.

[TheDaddy]

I can't really think of to many involving Gerrard, it's a shame it's creeping in to his game though, he is talented enough not to need to do it. As for Ronaldo even Ron Atkinson picked up on it 'lollipop, lollipop, fall over' says it all really.

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Mick

Don't ask silly questions. Dear me.

Silly questions? You mean because England need a scapegoat, like the ref they forced into hiding for 7 days for having the nerve to correctly disallow an England goal?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by gazzae

Silly questions? You mean because England need a scapegoat, like the ref they forced into hiding for 7 days for having the never to correctly disallow an England goal?

You can't blame us because he is going to jump ship, he has been trying to get out of Manchester for about two years now

[gazzae]

What makes me laugh even more is Ian Wright, Gerrard dives against Hungary and Wright is saying of course he should do it, Ronaldo dives and Wright is saying how disgraceful it is.