TiVo - Page 14

jb66 · 02-12-2010, 09:01

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin

Are you actually knowledgeable about what is involved in installing the new box?

Perhaps the dedicated internet connection which the box has will need balancing with the customer's existing broadband connection.

Perhaps the signal levels are completely different on this new box.

Perhaps........

Perhaps you are wrong to assume that it is simply replacing wires (and hoping it works).

In my area boxes should be set to 0 to -10db but if these new boxes are using qam256 they should be set at -3 to +7 so sounds like your maybe on to something there regarding the modem

tweedie · 02-12-2010, 09:13

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin

Are you actually knowledgeable about what is involved in installing the new box?

Perhaps the dedicated internet connection which the box has will need balancing with the customer's existing broadband connection.

Perhaps the signal levels are completely different on this new box.

Perhaps........

Perhaps you are wrong to assume that it is simply replacing wires (and hoping it works).

Well if he comes and does more than scratch his arse and unplug a few wires, plug them back in then leave, fair play

DC_FC79 · 02-12-2010, 09:38

Be interesting to see what price it would be for current customers,

02-12-2010, 10:01

Any info. on whether we can back up recordings with tivo and if so how?

Pierre · 02-12-2010, 11:30

Makes me wonder how people can question the price of the new Tivo product, when they don't even know its capabilities.

Perfect Choice · 02-12-2010, 11:34

We do, just not every single element of capability. This is not a brand new product, it is based on the USA Tivo which has been highly successful and where features are well documented.We just do not know right now how many of those features are coming to the VM UK version. In fact we know there are extra features like 3 tuners while the USA version only has 2.

Pierre · 02-12-2010, 11:53

What I mean is, nobody has used one yet.

The features may be "well documented" but all anyone on here (apart from a few VM bods maybe) has done is read about them.

Remember when Sky+ first came out, "you can record a whole series at a press of a button", "record live TV", sounded all very good, but when you actually used it for the first time, wow, TV was never going to be the same again. I couldn't imagine living with Sky + box.

Now compared to a Sky+ box, a tivo is just quite simply in a different arena.

It's like any new technology, it will be expensive for the first few "must have first" tech heads, but the price will come down eventually. But if you want it now, for bragging rights, you'll have pay top dollar.

I've seen it, and I was well impressed, simple funtions like the thumbs up, thumbs down button are great.

My only criticism is the design of the box, looks a bit cheap/plastic.

Stuart · 02-12-2010, 11:59

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Originally Posted by ahardie

Any info. on whether we can back up recordings with tivo and if so how?

Nothing concrete, but Tivo offers this in the US. You do need to buy software though.

CardinalGold · 02-12-2010, 12:23

For what its worth my thoughts on TIVO:

Plus points
- Interface looks good
- I like the 1 Terabyte extra storage
- I like the additional 10mb modem and access to web apps
- I like the intelligent tv bit

Negatives
- may be costly to upgrade for existing V+ HD customers
- only two tuners initially
- the box itself doesn't look that great

So on balance I can live without the extra storage space for the moment and I have access to the web anyway, so I'm going to wait for six - 12 months when they have the three tuners up and working and hopefully the price has come down a bit.

Perfect Choice · 02-12-2010, 12:28

Agree with that, but I can't wait so will buy when I can.

pauldavies83 · 02-12-2010, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Pierre

What I mean is, nobody has used one yet.
The features may be "well documented" but all anyone on here (apart from a few VM bods maybe) has done is read about them.

All we have to judge the price on, is what has been documented. I'm certainly not going to pay for something now that it "might do" in the future.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Remember when Sky+ first came out, "you can record a whole series at a press of a button", "record live TV", sounded all very good, but when you actually used it for the first time, wow, TV was never going to be the same again. I couldn't imagine living with Sky + box.

I remember when TiVo first came out (before Sky+) - it was better then than Sky+ is now - and that's the core of the problem - the core TiVo product hasn't changed enough in all those 10 years to justify the whopping price tag.

TiVo series 1 could "record live TV", and whole series at the press of a button long before Sky+ even hit the market. Plus it did it in a more sophisticated way (scanning +1 and repeat channels to avoid clashes and ensure your programme was recorded).

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Now compared to a Sky+ box, a tivo is just quite simply in a different arena.

As it was then, and 10 years have passed. The one thing Sky+ had over TiVo was dual-tuners (TiVo only had one), and the Murdoch-money-machine behind it.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

It's like any new technology, it will be expensive for the first few "must have first" tech heads, but the price will come down eventually. But if you want it now, for bragging rights, you'll have pay top dollar.

It's barely new technology - the core is 10 years old. The hardware will be as minimal as it needs to be, so what really is the Â£200 paying for? VM's licensing costs of the middleware appears to be obvious answer.

I like to think of it as the return of an old friend, who has made some nice improvements, but is still the friend it once was.

clinteastman · 02-12-2010, 13:20

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Originally Posted by pauldavies83

I remember when TiVo first came out (before Sky+) - it was better then than Sky+ is now - and that's the core of the problem - the core TiVo product hasn't changed enough in all those 10 years to justify the whopping price tag.

Lets say the core tech is the same as it was on a S1 (which it isn't, the app platform alone is a massive step forward) you yourself say the it was better than the Sky+ box is now, so we are saying it's still the best box on the market?

Perfect Choice · 02-12-2010, 13:23

It may be an old friend for a few (hope you enjoyed it) but not for the vast majority of VM subscribers today so looking forward to it. In terms of features, it still looks well ahead of Sky+/Anytime plus will have 3 tuners at least and further add-ons like iPad (has been confirmed is coming next year), but yes it will cost so take your choice or stay with a V+ and see what the Tivo UI is like on that current platform in 2011.

SmartMart · 02-12-2010, 13:38

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Other prices haven't officially been announced - yet.

I'm confused because the information published here: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4...h-of-tivo.html, contradicts what it says here: https://tivo.virginmedia.com/public/interest

Has TiVo been launched or hasn't it ??

Regards .....

BenMcr · 02-12-2010, 13:39

Yes it's been launched, but not all the prices have been detailed - yet

The reason it says 2011 is the date when most people will get it installed