Online Safety Bill Etc

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

In Australia, where they already have a ban, 70% of children are still accessing banned services.

There is also a suggestion that 16/17 year olds will face restrictions whilst on social media, namely an end to infinite scrolling, romantic AI chat companions and overnight curfews.

Yet we don't ban 16 & 17 year olds from being out alone at night. In fact should they be driving at that age, I'm all for protecting young people and could've gone along with something to protect them on social media but this isn't it

[Carth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yet we don't ban 16 & 17 year olds from being out alone at night. In fact should they be driving at that age, I'm all for protecting young people and could've gone along with something to protect them on social media but this isn't it

. . or voting

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

It isnt, nor do we know what questions were actually asked (loaded or worded to get the answer wanted).
Its easy to ask if if you just think something is a good idea, without going into detail or the consequences.

I'm sure if you asked parents if families with children should all get free access to the internet they would all say its a great idea, without thinking about issues it may create.

This is complete ballcocks

Loss of childhood ? Seriously, what planet are they on ?

They are probably referring to infinite scrolling and addiction to social media (it's designed to keep people on it) instead of socialising in the real world.

Then there is the darker side of bullying, harrassment, blackmail, bribery and, worst of all, having their lives cut short.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

They are probably referring to infinite scrolling and addiction to social media (it's designed to keep people on it) instead of socialising in the real world.

Then there is the darker side of bullying, harrassment, blackmail, bribery and, worst of all, having their lives cut short.

Much of those things can also happen outside the 'safety' of their bedroom, where they can simply 'close' whatever app they're using. You can't just 'close' it in the playground, in the park, the corner shop, or just walking down the street.

Ive always found "infinite scrolling" to be the exact opposite of addictive, it really annoys me.

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I just noticed that it includes "YouTube", since when has YT been "Social Media" ?
Its utterly ridiculous, my grandaughter loves all the stuff like Bluey, Peppa Pig etc that she can watch on YouTube. Its full of proper kids stuff.

The Sun was reporting last week that YouTube Kids would be exempt, but I can’t find anything confirming that.

[thenry]

It has also said that YouTube Kids - a version of the video-sharing app designed to be safe for children, with parental controls - will not be included.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqdny4l3jdo

[Carth]

I sincerely hope that Youtube isn't going to be included in this age verification crap.

Much of my entertainment is via Youtube - Music, watching old comedy stuff, checking out games I'm thinking of getting, and occasionally searching for answers on how to change the spogthrutch linkage on cars not designed to be maintained by human hands

[Jaymoss]

Yoti just looked at my face . I created an account and where Yoti is used I just log in verify and that is it no personal details

Originally Posted by Hugh

The Sun was reporting last week that YouTube Kids would be exempt, but I can’t find anything confirming that.

As noted by thenry, it does appear YouTube Kids will be exempt, I think thats what she is using (via Amazon Kids).

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

and what do the under 16s think about it

On tonights BBC News the responses ranged from "it will save thousands of generations " & "it feels like they don't trust us to use it properly".

On the local news, following an experiment in Bradford, it was "it makes me much happier and I feel hralthirr", "i've been catching up on a lot of sleep" & "it's enabled me to read books & go outside to play football or something".

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i hear that a reform government will repeal this nonsense

Only Reform is talking sense. It’s amazing to me that so many people don’t realise this yet.

it will save thousands of generations

Huh ?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

Ive always found "infinite scrolling" to be the exact opposite of addictive, it really annoys me.

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I just noticed that it includes "YouTube", since when has YT been "Social Media" ?
Its utterly ridiculous, my grandaughter loves all the stuff like Bluey, Peppa Pig etc that she can watch on YouTube. Its full of proper kids stuff.

They mean children spending hours scrolling through social media because they are addicted to it.

YouTube is classed as social media because it has user generated comments and there have been cases of inappropriate comments, bullying, harrassment etc.

Critics have said that this initiative will lead to children turning to VPN's and/or unregulated sites.

Who knows, perhaps this move will attract thousands of children to cableforum grin ��

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Originally Posted by Paul

Huh ?

I think he meant ...from the pitfalls/downsides of social media use.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Paul

Ive always found "infinite scrolling" to be the exact opposite of addictive, it really annoys me.

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I just noticed that it includes "YouTube", since when has YT been "Social Media" ?
Its utterly ridiculous, my grandaughter loves all the stuff like Bluey, Peppa Pig etc that she can watch on YouTube. Its full of proper kids stuff.

You are correct. We are changing the law for a minority of children who are vulnerable and should have better parental oversight at the expense of the majority, who know and understand right from wrong.

The correct solution is to ensure the social media companies employ safeguards. It can’t be that difficult.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

They mean children spending hours scrolling through social media because they are addicted to it.

YouTube is classed as social media because it has user generated comments and there have been cases of inappropriate comments, bullying, harrassment.

Richard, did you go to a State school? Remember the playground?

What’s the difference?