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Old 30-03-2010, 14:23   #181
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Re: OFCOM ready to rule?
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at worst itll be out tomorrow as they did say it was going to be published by end of march yea? or did i just make that up lol?
Ofcom did say ''By end of month''.

But The Mail on Sunday is right 90% of the time (But not with this one.)
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Old 30-03-2010, 14:26   #182
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The Mail on Sunday says it was out Today.

Oh well if not today maybe tommorow man

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Ofcom did say ''By end of month''.

But The Mail on Sunday is right 90% of the time (But not with this one.)
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Old 30-03-2010, 14:30   #183
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Re: OFCOM ready to rule?
Can someone explain this whole thing to me as I am confused.

What's wrong with Sky charging what they want for their channels to other providers especially when they have purchased the content they show?

Why is that bad & why does it need a review?

Seemed to have missed a step in the hate campaign against Sky somewhere
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Old 30-03-2010, 14:34   #184
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Re: OFCOM ready to rule?
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Can someone explain this whole thing to me as I am confused.

What's wrong with Sky charging what they want for their channels to other providers especially when they have purchased the content they show?

Why is that bad & why does it need a review?

Seemed to have missed a step in the hate campaign against Sky somewhere
Because Sky doesn't just own channels, it owns a distribution platform. The market is regulated to prevent it unfairly disadvantaging the owners of other content delivery platforms (mainly VM). Using a dominant market position to drive competitors out of business is illegal under EU law.
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Because Sky doesn't just own channels, it owns a distribution platform. The market is regulated to prevent it unfairly disadvantaging the owners of other content delivery platforms (mainly VM). Using a dominant market position to drive competitors out of business is illegal under EU law.
Thank you for explaining Chris
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Re: OFCOM ready to rule?
ive got no issue with sky charging the price it does, my issue is the price they charge despite not giving others the full package it just feels like being short changed, if we were given the red button id be fine with it i think
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Old 30-03-2010, 15:50   #187
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Re: OFCOM ready to rule?
This is how Sky are trying to force out other rivals and to force people onto Sky:

Selling Sky Movies and Sky Sports at very high costs to rivals to the point where rivals can never beat or even match the price Sky charges its residential customers.

Undercutting services even though rivals pay a very high price such as restricting features such as Red Button and interactive services as well as holding back HD that should be coming with the Sky premium channels together.

Deliberately offering a less high performing picture quality to rivals customers. However,I've noticed it happens occasionally,maybe so that they don't get caught out.

Sky control the following channels:

Sky 1
Sky 2
Sky 3
Sky Sports 1
Sky Sports 2
Sky Sports 3
Sky Sports 4
Sky Sports News
Sky News
Sky News HD
Sky Real Lives 1
Sky Real Lives 2
Sky Real Lives HD
Sky 1 HD
Sky Sports HD channels
Sky Movies Premiere
Sky Movies Premier+1
Sky Movies Showcase
Sky Movies Drama
Sky Movies Family
Sky Movies Horror&Sci-Fi
Sky Movies Comedy
Sky Movies Classics
Sky Movies Screen 1
Sky Movies Screen 2
Sky Movie HD channels
Sky Travel
Sky Vegas

Sky then has like 50% ownership over:

National Geographic
National Geographic+1
National Geographic HD
History
History HD
Crime and Investigation Network

Then there is the parent company owned channels:

Fox News
FX
FX HD
The Weather Channel (Thats if it ever returns to the UK,Absent since 1995)

They also control 50% of Men and Motors,however this channel is being ceased on 1st April 2010.

Other interests:

Five News and certain content is provided by BskyB
A share in ITV soon to be sold off is owned by BskyB
Most Sky exclusive channels are locked to Sky under contract
Sky control Disney Channels

So you see they control too much of the pay-tv and Digital TV market.

Sky were even after launching a similar service to top-up-tv that would offer dribbles of Sky1,Sky Real Lives,Disney Channel and National Geographic. This was blocked by Ofcom.

So when Sky get worried about churning or when they see Virgin Media becoming a threat, Sky start throwing there weight about and wack up wholesale prices to the point where rivals find it non-commercially viable and thus rivals will either cease carrying the channels or else cut features which customers do not want and this is Sky's attempt to win back customers.

Sky's content Rivals:

BBC:

BBC1,BBC2,BBC3,BBC4,BBC Parliament,BBC News 24,BBCHD,CBBC and Cbeebies

Virgin Media Television:

Living,Livingit,Living+1,Livingit+1,LivingHD,Bravo ,Bravo+1,Bravo2,Challenge TV,Challenge Jackpot,Virgin1 and Virgin1+1 also brand ownership of discontinued channels such as Trouble and TinyLiving

UKTV Channels(A 50/50 joint venture company between BBC and Virgin Media Television):

Watch
Watch+1
G.O.L.D
G.O.L.D+1
Dave
Davejavu
Dave+1
Alibi
Alibi+1
Eden
Blighty
Home
Home+1
Really
Really+1

Channel 4 Television:

Channel 4
Channel 4+1
Channel 4HD
Film 4
Film 4+1
More4
E4
E4+1
E4 HD (Coming soon)
4 Music

CBS and Viacom:

Comedy Central
Comedy Central+1
Comedy Central Extra
CBS Reality
CBS Horror
CBS Thriller
All MTV channels inlcuding Viva,VH1 and MTVHD
Nickelodeon

Other content rivals do not get a chance at offering HD really, so yeah it is time someone intervened.
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Old 30-03-2010, 15:54   #188
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Re: OFCOM ready to rule?
I am sure that Sky has a 25% stake in MTV and Comedy Central channels as well.
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Old 30-03-2010, 16:36   #189
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and 98% of MGM's UK channel.
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Old 30-03-2010, 16:54   #190
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Re: OFCOM ready to rule?
Also I am sure that there stake in the Nat Geo and A&E channels are no where near 50%. Remember just because they have a stake in them doesn't mean they control the channel, they maybe able to get exclusive use of them for a period of time but they will be financially paying for this, which is something that cable has so far been unwilling do to. Hopefully with channels like Living HD and Film 4HD this may change.
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Old 30-03-2010, 17:01   #191
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Try here for info - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bskyb
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Re: OFCOM ready to rule?
Looks like Sky is gonna get away with it again.

All they have to do is move key footy games to SS2, SS3 or SS4, since OFCOM can't tell Sky what to show on its channels:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...eup-sky-sports
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Sky also own or a have a huge stake in the Star channels.
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Looks like Sky is gonna get away with it again.

All they have to do is move key footy games to SS2, SS3 or SS4, since OFCOM can't tell Sky what to show on its channels:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...eup-sky-sports
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