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Old 26-10-2004, 10:12   #1906
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ok so Ruud's tackle is being looked into by the FA video panel. I can except that it was a bad challenge. What I don't understand is how come the unbiased FA who don't have an Arsenal chairman on their board aren't looking into the "challenge" by Henry where he kicked Heinze's head when he was already on the ground ? How come the papers and TV seem to have forgotton this.

I would if the situation was reversed and we had lost and one of our players had suffered a bad tackle from Cole if it would go to the video panel ?

Maybe if Cole wasn't a dirty player who kicks everyone all the time then Ruud wouldn't have gone for him. I guess it's ok for him to do that as it is for Pires to dive for pens and free kicks it's just a different matter when it's done back to them.
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Old 26-10-2004, 10:15   #1907
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I wonder if Arsanal have anyone higher up in the FA who are invluencing this...?

Nah!! That couldn't happen could it???
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Or even what about the Edu challange on Scholes where he raked his studs down Scholes' leg.

At least there is some good news, Arsene Wenger has found a partial cure for his myopia...

Anyway while we are talking about bad tackles? Anyone see Lauren's on Gareth Barry the other weekend? It was knee high, late, and Barry is now out until Xmas.
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Or even what about the Edu challange on Scholes where he raked his studs down Scholes' leg.

At least there is some good news, Arsene Wenger has found a partial cure for his myopia...

Anyway while we are talking about bad tackles? Anyone see Lauren's on Gareth Barry the other weekend? It was knee high, late, and Barry is now out until Xmas.
i think the difference there is that it was done by an Arsenal player so it's ok as it diving when Pires does it.

Who is the only team in the hostory of football who had had a penalty awarded against them and then had the ref changed his mind ?

When are the only team to get play stopped so their goalkeeper can change boots ?

Who after violent behavour last season managed and looking at 10 game bans for the players involved managed to get it reduced via the FA, where their chairman is on the board, to a few games each

How come Cole, Viera and Edu get away with tackles just as bad as this each week but never get sent before a video panel ?
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ok so Ruud's tackle is being looked into by the FA video panel. I can except that it was a bad challenge. What I don't understand is how come the unbiased FA who don't have an Arsenal chairman on their board aren't looking into the "challenge" by Henry where he kicked Heinze's head when he was already on the ground ? How come the papers and TV seem to have forgotton this.

I would if the situation was reversed and we had lost and one of our players had suffered a bad tackle from Cole if it would go to the video panel ?

Maybe if Cole wasn't a dirty player who kicks everyone all the time then Ruud wouldn't have gone for him. I guess it's ok for him to do that as it is for Pires to dive for pens and free kicks it's just a different matter when it's done back to them.

If you remember last year we did get done

Also henry didnt kick him in the back of the head he was getting the ball and the whole thing became messy but it was by no means a clear kick in the head certainly not on purpose. And dont talk to us about diving
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And dont talk to us about diving
Too right, I mean, you lot know enough about it already don't ya
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If you remember last year we did get done

Also henry didnt kick him in the back of the head he was getting the ball and the whole thing became messy but it was by no means a clear kick in the head certainly not on purpose. And dont talk to us about diving
you started the diving first so we aer on;y copying the high standards that Arsenal have set. By using your model of play we are hoping to start a 100 game unbeaten run.

You didn't get done as much as you were going to . It was going to be 10 game bans each and then someone in the FA where your chairman sits bargained it down to a few games each.

Play had already stopped when Henize was on the ground and Henry jumped straight into his back. he wasn't trying to get the ball unless he was confusing he knee and his foot and the ball and Heinze's head.

Ruud has been studying videos of Cole, Viera and Edu in a bid to learn how they play when we was doing the tackle on Cole he was re-enacting what he had been studying. Again we aer only copying your style of play. See the Villa game the other week where you put Barry out still Christmas but Cole still played the brest of the game.

Edu racked down the back of Scholes legs at one point as well. Is that ok ?
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It appears I was mistaken. Arsene's myopia has relapsed.

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'I don't know about food throwing. I did not see if something was thrown - you'll have to ask someone else because I don't know.'
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It appears I was mistaken. Arsene's myopia has relapsed.
some things don't change.. apparently it was thrown at Fergie while Wenger was talking to him ! How could he miss it.

He also seems to have missed Edu , Cole and Viera making several fouls and playing in the Arsenal spirit.

As I said earlier any diving and bad tackles we did we learnt from Arsenal
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yeah yeah tyically man utd thinking, we did something good, it wasnt you, so we cheated


Get over it, you dont win the fair play league, win the premiership and go 49 games unbeaten by cheating
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Get over it, you dont win the fair play league, win the premiership and go 49 games unbeaten by cheating
Arse have managed for a while now.....

Which team has the worst disciplinery record over the last few years?
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yeah yeah tyically man utd thinking, we did something good, it wasnt you, so we cheated


Get over it, you dont win the fair play league, win the premiership and go 49 games unbeaten by cheating
all the arsenal fans were saying Rooney dive for a pen and going on about the Ruud challenge.

I was mearly pointing out that Pires has already dived to win a pen last season against Portsmouth at the start of your 49 game run and during it Cole, Viera etc have done just as many bad challenges as the one Ruud did.

if you can do it so can we..
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all the arsenal fans were saying Rooney dive for a pen and going on about the Ruud challenge.

I was mearly pointing out that Pires has already dived to win a pen last season against Portsmouth at the start of your 49 game run and during it Cole, Viera etc have done just as many bad challenges as the one Ruud did.

if you can do it so can we..
Why do I think that, if the boot were on the other foot, you wouldn't be saying this?
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yeah yeah tyically man utd thinking, we did something good, it wasnt you, so we cheated
Now Damien, a simple question. Did they or did they not have to cheat to go a whole season unbeaten?

A simple yes or no answer will do.

Arsenal fans, just take losing gracefully.
Don't complain that the penalty was dubious when you have benefited from these in the past.
Don't complain about RIO not being sent off when you have benefited from these decisions in the past.
Don't claim to be by far the better team when you had less shots on target.
Don't claim to have been kicked off the park when your team commited more fouls.

Here take some advice from Mr Carroll

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Why do I think that, if the boot were on the other foot, you wouldn't be saying this?
Diving happens - dirty play happens - that's not to say it's acceptable or right but when a team is known for doing it ends up losing a match when the opposition apparently does so, it's hard to sympathise.
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