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More trouble for EU la la land. Strengthens our hand considerably IMHO.  
			
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 I think the Eurocrats have let power go to their heads.  
 
If this turns out to have any mileage it makes you wonder how the so called 'experts' who're widely quoted on the subject of Brexit, don't seem to have picked up on this possibility beforehand.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			10-10-2016, 08:22
			
			
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			11-10-2016, 05:54
			
			
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			This has the potential to explode out of control. 
 
It seems we have the current government following ideology rather than common sense, and the EU leaders acting like children who want to be hard on us out of spite.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-10-2016, 08:18
			
			
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				This has the potential to explode out of control. 
 
It seems we have the current government following ideology rather than common sense, and the EU leaders acting like children who want to be hard on us out of spite. 
			
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 Pah it's what was voted for, who cares if it costs the country 66 billion quid a year, they're probably telling lies anyway, poxy experts we're sick of them to apparently 
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 Absolutely, we got our country back!!* 
 
*albeit with loss status, 66 billion a year, Financial passport, my eu passport to go anywhere I want in Europe , my freedom to work anywhere in EU, freedom to live anywhere in Europe
 
but hey we can now get rid of those pesky EU foreigners that we blame from housing shortage, job shortage, cheap labour, cheap meat, the plague, eh?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-10-2016, 09:44
			
			
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			just leave, clean break.  hard Brexit then negotiate, if we covet the customs union then the EU think they have leverage over us. 
If they want to slap tariffs on our exports, we can slap tariffs on theirs I'm sure they'd love their Audis, BMWs, VWs, Champagne, prosecco, cava, cheese to be more expensive against cars from the far east, sparkling chardonnay from the US and Australia.
 
In regards to this latest headline. you must always read the detail.
 
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				The net impact on public sector receipts – assuming no contributions to the EU and current receipts from the EU are replicated in full – would be a loss of between £38bn and £66bn per year after 15 years, driven by the smaller size of the economy.
			
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 That's possible prediction 15years into the future. Nobody can predict 15years into the future. Most forecasts rarely go beyond 3 years.
 
More scaremongering from the remaining remainers.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				just leave, clean break.  hard Brexit then negotiate, if we covet the customs union then the EU think they have leverage over us. 
			
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				If they want to slap tariffs on our exports, we can slap tariffs on theirs I'm sure they'd love their Audis, BMWs, VWs, Champagne, prosecco, cava, cheese to be more expensive against cars from the far east, sparkling chardonnay from the US and Australia.
			
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 They'll only be cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
 
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That's possible prediction 15years into the future. Nobody can predict 15years into the future. Most forecasts rarely go beyond 3 years. 
 
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 Remember that the source of this report is the treasury that is stuffed to the gunwales with frustrated remainers. What else would they say?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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They'll only be cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
 
Remember that the source of this report is the treasury that is stuffed to the gunwales with frustrated remainers. What else would they say?  
			
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Can you explain something to me?
 
Can you tell me why when someone forecasts something that you don't agree with you poo poo it. Yet you firmly believe that 'they'll only be cutting their noses off' ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-10-2016, 10:00
			
			
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			Until people understand the impact of the single market goes beyond tariff-free trade then everyone will assume it will be easy/simple.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			What is it about being controlled by an unelected, anti-democratic beurocracy that you remainers like so much?   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				What is it about being controlled by an unelected, anti-democratic beurocracy that you remainers like so much?    
			
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				What is it about being controlled by an unelected, anti-democratic beurocracy that you remainers like so much?    
			
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 I have absolute zero trust in our supposed politicians who have time and time again screwed people over to benefit only themselves. I wouldn't trust them to feed my dog never mind run a country. 
 
Personally, and as I've stated before whilst the EU is not without it's faults. It has given us many positives.
 
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				What is it about being controlled by an unelected, anti-democratic beurocracy that you remainers like so much?    
			
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Yup, it's not as though the EU is currently a model for success is it.  It's lurched from grotesque wine lakes and butter mountains to appalling austerity, huge unemployment, social unrest, out of control migration and serious cross border antagonism all exacerbated by institutionalised dogma, dithering and in-fighting along the way.
 
I'd have some sympathy with the remain standpoint if the EU was actually working but it's never been more divided IMHO and what lies ahead doesn't look good to me.  Why would anyone want to be tethered to all that?    
I think a lot of remainers are in denial about just how bad things are over there when the constant flow of EU migrants into the UK* ought to suggest the clear answer.  The EU isn't what it could and should have been.  It clearly isn't capable of reform and therefore, regretfully, we need to get out and have made the right decision and at least we can vote our failed policymakers out if we decide to.  
 
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