Boris misled just about everyone.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Maybe someone's got some more party photos and videos and hinted it was in his interests to honour his charitable engagement instead?

Theresa May was in good, stateswoman form last night.

Muppet of the evening went to Grimsby's Lia Nici who made a bold speech proclaiming why she would vote against the report. But then she didn't!

yes her speak was very good

[Saul's Grandad]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Muppet of the evening went to Grimsby's Lia Nici who made a bold speech proclaiming why she would vote against the report. But then she didn't!

While claiming that there was no evidence to show Johnson lied...holding the very document that provided details of the evidence Yea, we're not blessed with brilliant parliamentarians here in the wastes of NE Lincolnshire...both Nici and the Cleethorpes MP (Martin Vickers) voted in favour of pumping sewage into our rivers and seas, including around the coastline and beaches in their constituencies...because Cleethorpes' seaside economy isn't important to our local overall economy...D'oh!

[Terry4947]

I believe the real reason why Boris had to take so many 'attacks' from people who should have been supporting him ,was he was not one of 'The old boy network' but a Maverick who knew what he wanted and did it his way. I agree he did not play by the rules, but did his advisors say(at the time- This is wrong- No they wanted the Party and the Glory), could anyone else have mastered Europe and Covid19 like he did? Did anyone stand up and say 'Well Done', no; of course not, they were too busy covering their own backsides. He was his own person who said what he thought.
He made mistakes, but show me any politician who has not made a mistake and covered it up
He was the right person in the right job at the right time.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Terry4947

I believe the real reason why Boris had to take so many 'attacks' from people who should have been supporting him ,was he was not one of 'The old boy network' but a Maverick who knew what he wanted and did it his way. I agree he did not play by the rules, but did his advisors say(at the time- This is wrong- No they wanted the Party and the Glory), could anyone else have mastered Europe and Covid19 like he did? Did anyone stand up and say 'Well Done', no; of course not, they were too busy covering their own backsides. He was his own person who said what he thought.
He made mistakes, but show me any politician who has not made a mistake and covered it up
He was the right person in the right job at the right time.

He's an incompetent habitual liar who's only interest is himself I'm afraid Terry.

Just look at the number of offspring, affairs different partners. Or the 4 jobs he was sacked from for lying befire he somehow became a lying PM. He's never done a day's work in his life. Self gratification in both his personal and working lives. Inherited wealth is all he has and the support of those whose wealth he protects or gives honours to.

He's a bit of character I'll give you that. But it's not an entertainment job.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Terry4947

I believe the real reason why Boris had to take so many 'attacks' from people who should have been supporting him ,was he was not one of 'The old boy network' but a Maverick who knew what he wanted and did it his way. I agree he did not play by the rules, but did his advisors say(at the time- This is wrong- No they wanted the Party and the Glory), could anyone else have mastered Europe and Covid19 like he did? Did anyone stand up and say 'Well Done', no; of course not, they were too busy covering their own backsides. He was his own person who said what he thought.
He made mistakes, but show me any politician who has not made a mistake and covered it up
He was the right person in the right job at the right time.

Going to Eton by definition makes you one of the old boy network. He's very much of the establishment.

His advisers told him that he could not advise Parliament he had followed all the lockdown rules but he ignored them and lied to Parliament. He even ‘sought to rewrite’ Covid rules to fit his own evidence.

As for Brexit, we got a terrible and incomplete deal that puts the UK in a far weaker position than it needed to be.

Johnson is a good ribbon-cutter and he's done a great job on rallying support for Ukraine.

However, there's never a right time for a clown to be PM.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Terry4947

I believe the real reason why Boris had to take so many 'attacks' from people who should have been supporting him ,was he was not one of 'The old boy network' but a Maverick who knew what he wanted and did it his way. I agree he did not play by the rules, but did his advisors say(at the time- This is wrong- No they wanted the Party and the Glory), could anyone else have mastered Europe and Covid19 like he did? Did anyone stand up and say 'Well Done', no; of course not, they were too busy covering their own backsides. He was his own person who said what he thought.
He made mistakes, but show me any politician who has not made a mistake and covered it up
He was the right person in the right job at the right time.

One might argue he only got any of the jobs he’s ever had because he is part of an old boys network.

On the plus side, OB is no longer the most deluded fantasist on these boards.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by jfman

One might argue he only got any of the jobs he’s ever had because he is part of an old boys network.

On the plus side, OB is no longer the most deluded fantasist on these boards.

unfortunately we probably all know a Terry 4947

Originally Posted by Terry4947

I believe the real reason why Boris had to take so many 'attacks' from people who should have been supporting him ,was he was not one of 'The old boy network' but a Maverick who knew what he wanted and did it his way. I agree he did not play by the rules, but did his advisors say(at the time- This is wrong- No they wanted the Party and the Glory), could anyone else have mastered Europe and Covid19 like he did? Did anyone stand up and say 'Well Done', no; of course not, they were too busy covering their own backsides. He was his own person who said what he thought.
He made mistakes, but show me any politician who has not made a mistake and covered it up
He was the right person in the right job at the right time.

"not one of 'The old boy network'"??

Johnson went to Eton and then studied Literae humaniores at Oxford, was the Oxford Union Secretary, got a job at the Times through family connections (got fired for lying), then got a job at the Telegraph through University connections (Max Hastings), and his children all went to fee-paying schools…


From the Sunday Times…

[Sephiroth]

Hugh seems to be turning into a Robespierre.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Hugh seems to be turning into a Robespierre.

Thank you…

https://www.britannica.com/biography...eign-of-Terror

Robespierre’s enemies credited him with dictatorial power, both in the Jacobin Club and in the Committee of Public Safety, a power that he did not have. Counterrevolutionaries and the rich condemned his egalitarian ideas, while popular militants accused him of lacking boldness. After his death, his memory was relentlessly attacked, and a great many of his papers were destroyed. History portrayed him as either a bloodthirsty creature or a timid bourgeois.

But, following the appearance of working-class movements in the 19th century, both in France and abroad, homage was paid to this “persecuted patriot,” and his most famous speeches were reprinted. His social ideal consisted in reducing extreme inequalities of wealth, in increasing the number of small property owners, and in ensuring work and education for all. He was a man of his times, of the Enlightenment, a patriot, a man with a sense of duty and of sacrifice, whose influence remains considerable.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

On the plus side, OB is no longer the most deluded fantasist on these boards.

A sentence I never expected to read on this forum!

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Hugh seems to be turning into a Robespierre.

No way, he is the Gif king.

Originally Posted by Mad Max

No way, he is the Gif king.

[1andrew1]

The democracy deniers are called out.

Nadine Dorries and Jacob Rees-Mogg among 10 named in privileges committee special report on partygate probe

The privileges committee has released its report into interference in its Boris Johnson partygate probe, naming seven MPs and three peers as those who put "improper pressure" on the investigation.

The group have been accused of using "unprecedented and co-ordinated pressure", which "had significant personal impact on individual members and raised significant security concerns".

Other senior Tories named include former cabinet minister Priti Patel and Lord Zac Goldsmith, who is a serving minister.

MPs Mark Jenkinson, Michael Fabricant, Brendan Clarke-Smith and Andrea Jenkyns are all also cited in the report for criticising the investigation with tweets and media interviews attacking the committee.

The report said they sought to influence the outcome of the inquiry, impede its work by inducing members to resign and "discredit the committee as a whole".

https://news.sky.com/story/nadine-do...probe-12911488

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The democracy deniers are called out.

https://news.sky.com/story/nadine-do...probe-12911488

They only want democracy when it suits their own political ends.