Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
01-03-2021, 11:37
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Can you give me an example of where you've had usage forced upon you by this mysterious woke campaign?
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Well, if you google "Telegraph woke agenda", you will get 832,000 results, so that might be the source ( average readership age is 61)... 
The Telegraph's (et al) campaigns against what they term "woke" is just their latest in their efforts to stoke outrage - in the 70s and 80s, they did the same against Feminism, in the 90s and 00s, it was against the "Gay Agenda", and they just repeat the same tactics decade after decade, trying to make their readership feel threatened and outraged, because things aren't " the same as they were before, when everything was idyllic*.
Also, having a "culture war" is useful for distraction from actual important problems - the Conservatives have been in power for 11 years (nearly), have an 80 seat majority, most of the media slavishly reprint their viewpoints (from a Downing Street/Government source), but somehow the right wing views are "oppressed".
* if you were a white middle-class straight male.
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01-03-2021, 11:48
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Many years ago I was accused of degendering someone when I referred to them as "they". This was on an anonymous forum with no actually indication of what gender they were. I think it was to provoke a response so I just ignored it.
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In such circumstances I use "he/she" or "him/her". The woke brigade haven't yet picked me up on that.
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Well, if you google "Telegraph woke agenda", you will get 832,000 results, so that might be the source ( average readership age is 61)...
The Telegraph's (et al) campaigns against what they term "woke" is just their latest in their efforts to stoke outrage - in the 70s and 80s, they did the same against Feminism, in the 90s and 00s, it was against the "Gay Agenda", and they just repeat the same tactics decade after decade, trying to make their readership feel threatened and outraged, because things aren't " the same as they were before, when everything was idyllic*.
Also, having a "culture war" is useful for distraction from actual important problems - the Conservatives have been in power for 11 years (nearly), have an 80 seat majority, most of the media slavishly reprint their viewpoints (from a Downing Street/Government source), but somehow the right wing views are "oppressed".
*if you were a white middle-class straight male. |
What's wrong with being a white middle-class straight male?
You may consciously feel that you didn't say there was something wrong. But the sneer was definitely there by associating Telegraph readers such as myself with right wing views.
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01-03-2021, 11:54
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
Nothing - but as a group, we may be many things, but we're not "oppressed".
btw, when you say
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associating Telegraph readers such as myself with right wing views.
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you were being sarcastic, yes?
Being a Telegraph reader is almost synonomous with being a Tory (speaking as a Telegraph reader of almost 20 years, before I moved on to the Times) - it's not called the Torygraph as an oxymoron...
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01-03-2021, 12:08
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Many years ago I was accused of degendering someone when I referred to them as "they". This was on an anonymous forum with no actually indication of what gender they were. I think it was to provoke a response so I just ignored it.
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01-03-2021, 12:28
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Nothing - but as a group, we may be many things, but we're not "oppressed".
btw, when you say
you were being sarcastic, yes?
Being a Telegraph reader is almost synonomous with being a Tory (speaking as a Telegraph reader of almost 20 years, before I moved on to the Times) - it's not called the Torygraph as an oxymoron...
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What's your point? You are the master of sarcasm (quite annoying, actually).
The Telegraph's anti-woke position is absolutely correct. There are may ways of respecting gender preferences without resorting to woke measures.
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
"I can't believe I'm living in a world that is reassigning the gender of a plastic potato."
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01-03-2021, 12:49
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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"I can't believe I'm living in a world that is reassigning the gender of a plastic potato."
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Luckily, you're not... 
If you were, you'd be stating that a because putting certain items of clothing on to an androgynous piece of plastic gave it a gender (Mr Potato Head), gender is a social construct...
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01-03-2021, 13:07
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Luckily, you're not...
If you were, you'd be stating that a because putting certain items of clothing on to an androgynous piece of plastic gave it a gender (Mr Potato Head), gender is a social construct... |
Jeez - you don't half get things wrong (and provocatively at that).
It's a flipping doll (Mr Potato Head), dressed as males dress; hence the Mr. This crap about gender being a social construct is pure nitpicking for no good. OK - so putting mal clothing onto the doll gave it male sex. Satisfied? Jeez.
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Luckily, you're not...
If you were, you'd be stating that a because putting certain items of clothing on to an androgynous piece of plastic gave it a gender (Mr Potato Head), gender is a social construct... |
Mr Potato Head still exists. Here's the new packaging.
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01-03-2021, 13:14
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Mr Potato Head still exists. Here's the new packaging.
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Yup, that's the whole irony of this debate!
All Hasbro has done is to change the branding for the range to Potato Head from Mr Potato Head.
I can understanding it being confusing if one model had Mr Potato Head on it for the range and Mrs Potato Head being the product itself. It could lead to the wrong Potato Head being purchased.  This minor re-branding sorts that problem out!
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Yup, that's the whole irony of this debate!
All Hasbro has done is to change the branding for the range to Potato Head from Mr Potato Head.
I can understanding it being confusing if one model had Mr Potato Head on it for the range and Mrs Potato Head being the product itself. It could lead to the wrong Potato Head being purchased. This minor re-branding sorts that problem out! |
You're right, of course. But it has opened the door to the imagination here on the forum.
https://corporate.hasbro.com/en-us/a...hing_this_fall
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Launching this Fall, the CREATE YOUR POTATO HEAD FAMILY is a celebration of the many faces of families allowing kids to imagine and create their own Potato Head family with 2 large potato bodies, 1 small potato body, and 42 accessories. The possibilities to create your own families are endless with mixing and mashing all the parts and pieces.
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Will the 42 accessories be able to conjure up the woke contrivances? The 100 genders (or only 21)? Any cross-dressing obviously possible? Gender queer? Gender fluid?
Do you have to buy two sets to represent gay male/female (they) parents? Must be monetarily unfair to gays.
If Hasbro had just done the rebrand without any fanfair, this thread would be somewhat threadbare.
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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What's your point? You are the master of sarcasm (quite annoying, actually).
The Telegraph's anti-woke position is absolutely correct. There are may ways of respecting gender preferences without resorting to woke measures.
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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If you say so...
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You're right, of course. But it has opened the door to the imagination here on the forum.
https://corporate.hasbro.com/en-us/a...hing_this_fall
Will the 42 accessories be able to conjure up the woke contrivances? The 100 genders (or only 21)? Any cross-dressing obviously possible? Gender queer? Gender fluid?
Do you have to buy two sets to represent gay male/female (they) parents? Must be monetarily unfair to gays.
If Hasbro had just done the rebrand without any fanfair, this thread would be somewhat threadbare.
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Wow, you’re really getting worked up about this, and letting your imagination run riot - you’re secretly the leader of the Woke-ingham Tories, aren’t you, subtly raising the secret woke agenda until others don’t realise they’ve succumbed to it.
I see through your Wokey subterfuges...
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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If you say so...
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Wow, you’re really getting worked up about this, and letting your imagination run riot - you’re secretly the leader of the Woke-ingham Tories, aren’t you, subtly raising the secret woke agenda until others don’t realise they’ve succumbed to it.
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Lol at Wokeingham. Apparently, the healthiest place to live in England I believe per the Sunday Times.
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01-03-2021, 14:20
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Your postings on the subject would evidence otherwise...
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That I'm impolite or that I acquiesce to post-modernism shenanigans?
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