NTL promoting copyright infringement - Page 12

th'engineer · 05-09-2003, 13:57

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Originally posted by Nemesis
Hmm, I thought you'd given up ...

At best can we agree that the advert was unethical ??

I agree with that and it appears so do the ASA

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 14:00

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Originally posted by Nemesis
Hmm, I thought you'd given up ...

At best can we agree that the advert was unethical ??

At the end of the day, I agree that is unethical - I've never said it was a good advert.....

But to go to the ASA or FACT or whoever your mate works for is ridiculous. Pot and kettle etc.....

Nemesis · 05-09-2003, 14:00

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Originally posted by th'engineer
I agree with that and it appears so do the ASA

What have you heard then ?

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 14:01

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Originally posted by th'engineer
I agree with that and it appears so do the ASA

Can you provide a link to show that the ASA agree Th'eng?

andygrif · 05-09-2003, 14:03

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Originally posted by orangebird
In your point 2, you stated that there is not the bandwith to download a movie. This is completes rubbish. You can - but to be on the safe side, only download two in a consecutive fourteen day period.....
Why can't you just admit it?

And with point 1 - great. I expect you be off grassing up all the other p2p/warez applications that you know promote illegal downloading etc after your triumph with ntl?

Why the hostility?

I haven't 'grassed' anyone up. I also haven't said I am going to.

As an aside, the company I work for requires under our agreement with the MPAA to report known issues that may affect them...that said I still haven't said if I am going to do it.

At the end of the day, we all know it goes on, MPAA included. But for ntl to be promoting it as a selling point is way beyond the mark.

Shaun · 05-09-2003, 14:04

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Originally posted by orangebird
Did you mean consistently, rather than contently??

Thats ieSpell for you. Oops

downquark1 · 05-09-2003, 14:05

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Originally posted by andygrif
Why the hostility?

I haven't 'grassed' anyone up. I also haven't said I am going to.

As an aside, the company I work for requires under our agreement with the MPAA to report known issues that may affect them...that said I still haven't said if I am going to do it.

At the end of the day, we all know it goes on, MPAA included. But for ntl to be promoting it as a selling point is way beyond the mark.

Someones gonna report it sooner or later

Serves NTL right for being so stupid.

th'engineer · 05-09-2003, 14:07

link as requested here

Shaun · 05-09-2003, 14:07

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Originally posted by orangebird
It's not about how relevant it is or isn't. It's about the wording of the advert and the legalities of the words. And going by the words of the advert in black and white (not mine or anyone elses intrepretations of it), all it does is state a fact. As I said, I think it's a hiding to nothing.

Ntl ARE responsible for how the advert can be interpreted.

andygrif · 05-09-2003, 14:08

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Originally posted by aliferste
#reads thread#

ROFLMAO#

It IS biting the hand that feeds you.

The only good copies of films out there are ones that are out on DVD......the newest films are pathertic quality and are in no way enjoyable to watch. Shaky cams with poeple getting more popcorn.

This is not always the case actually. There are litterally hundreds of preview VHS copies of movies before they are screened in cinemas.

We get them here, and you wouldn't believe the security we have to have to get them

Sadly there are some idiots in the industry who abuse the system, which is why you can get some movies ahead of release. I don't advocate it, just like I don't advocate people downloading music (just for the record I have downloaded about 12 tracks from the internet over the years - ones not available elsewhere on CD)

Being in the media and entertainment business, I care passionately about copyright. If everyone downloaded everything, there would be nothing to download.....think about it.

To promote such behaviour is not only illegal, but immoral.

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 14:09

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Originally posted by th'engineer
link as requested here

I'll take that as a 'no' then.....

05-09-2003, 14:09

Oh we are still here goody

Hey theres been a right load of noise about this advert, yeah honestly, it was about as loud as a mouses fart.

lets keep it all in perspective.
We all think the advert is pretty dumb, but then theres those of us that think some people have over reacted and reported this nonsense to other organisations. And its worth noting that these people also think the people doing so have done it because of their personal gripes at NTL. Not for the good of existing and future customers.

Thats the bottom line.

andygrif · 05-09-2003, 14:10

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Originally posted by orangebird
Yes, but so is downloading it.

I've had enough now anyway. IMO, it's on a hiding to nothing.

You make good points and make them well my friend!

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 14:10

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Originally posted by dellwear
Ntl ARE responsible for how the advert can be interpreted.

And you really think that some legal/governing body is going to expect ntl to control the interpretations of the thousands of people who are going to see the ad? Get real. The only person responsible for my actions is me.

th'engineer · 05-09-2003, 14:13

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Originally posted by orangebird
I'll take that as a 'no' then.....

Come on ob read the thread its taken from return e-mail to me from ASA.

Whats all the bitterness for