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[damien c]

It really does amaze me that people are so invested in mans finances from before he was an MP!

I wonder for all those so obsessed with it, do you declare all your earnings to a new employer and what you used those funds for?

Do you declare on your tax returns every single bit of money you are given either from work, gifts, winnings, found, saved, selling etc or do you just leave it on auto like most and not declare some of the money you get outside of work?

I wonder why no one seems to be making such a big deal about Starmer and others getting tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands from people, after all if it's bad that Farage was given money before he was an MP, then surely it must be even worse for an MP or PM to receive money from people??

Absolute hypocrites if you say it's different or it doesn't matter!

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by damien c

It really does amaze me that people are so invested in mans finances from before he was an MP!

I wonder for all those so obsessed with it, do you declare all your earnings to a new employer and what you used those funds for?

Do you declare on your tax returns every single bit of money you are given either from work, gifts, winnings, found, saved, selling etc or do you just leave it on auto like most and not declare some of the money you get outside of work?

I wonder why no one seems to be making such a big deal about Starmer and others getting tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands from people, after all if it's bad that Farage was given money before he was an MP, then surely it must be even worse for an MP or PM to receive money from people??

Absolute hypocrites if you say it's different or it doesn't matter!

some people are triggered by the mere mention of the name Farage, fds is strong in these people,they don't see that others have done the same as it's hard to see through their blinkerd view of the world.

[Carth]

Farage is a thorn in the side of the 'established' politicians, they're scared of him and will use any and all means possible to discredit the bloke . . and they have a lot of influence.

They don't like it when the 'great unwashed' get ideas above their station

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

Farage is a thorn in the side of the 'established' politicians, they're scared of him and will use any and all means possible to discredit the bloke . . and they have a lot of influence.

They don't like it when the 'great unwashed' get ideas above their station

it get's stirred up by the media especially those with a political agenda,and provides fuel for hordes of Freddy the phantom fact fiddler types,who trawl the internet for ammunition against their intended target

Originally Posted by Carth

Farage is a thorn in the side of the 'established' politicians, they're scared of him and will use any and all means possible to discredit the bloke . . and they have a lot of influence.

They don't like it when the 'great unwashed' get ideas above their station

Got to love all the excuses given - the rules are MPs have to declare any gifts for the period 12 months before they became an MP, and he hasn’t done this…

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

it get's stirred up by the media especially those with a political agenda,and provides fuel for hordes of Freddy the phantom fact fiddler types,who trawl the internet for ammunition against their intended target

Or, as they’re called in those who haven’t taken up residence in Farage’s ileum, facts…

[jfman]

Originally Posted by damien c

I wonder for all those so obsessed with it, do you declare all your earnings to a new employer and what you used those funds for?

Do you declare on your tax returns every single bit of money you are given either from work, gifts, winnings, found, saved, selling etc or do you just leave it on auto like most and not declare some of the money you get outside of work?

I wonder why no one seems to be making such a big deal about Starmer and others getting tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands from people, after all if it's bad that Farage was given money before he was an MP, then surely it must be even worse for an MP or PM to receive money from people??

Absolute hypocrites if you say it's different or it doesn't matter!

It’s completely different

We live in a capitalist society. People don’t routinely run around gifting £5m here or there to their mates for nothing in return.

If I’m repairing mobile phones on the side (I’m not) and not telling the taxman my customer gets a repaired phone. What’s Farage’s “customer” getting? Farage in their pocket for 5 years? Its certainly going to focus his more than the paltry sums an MP, and even the PM earn. Just look at poor Boris. Barely enough to live on for him.

Originally Posted by Carth

Farage is a thorn in the side of the 'established' politicians, they're scared of him and will use any and all means possible to discredit the bloke . . and they have a lot of influence.

They don't like it when the 'great unwashed' get ideas above their station

Kind of makes it easy for them by accepting millions in personal gifts, and having a convicted criminal pay for accommodation, staff, transport and so on.

[Carth]

Tell me what that 'convicted criminal' was convicted of . . without laughing

Not sure what’s amusing about conspiracy to commit money laundering, wire fraud, blackmail, and extortion…

conspiracy to commit money laundering, wire fraud, blackmail, and extortion. Denied bail by a judge who branded Cottrell a "serious flight risk," he was detained in custody at Metropolitan Correctional Center, Chicago

Cottrell's indictment states how in 2014, he met with undercover federal agents in Las Vegas, where he conspired to launder millions of dollars' worth of drug money using offshore bank accounts6. However, following a plea agreement in December 2016, prosecutors agreed to dismiss 20 counts in return for a guilty plea to a single count of wire fraud in which Cottrell admitted to explaining various ways criminal proceeds could be laundered.

In March 2017, Cottrell was sentenced and released by Judge Diane Humetewa, having served eight months in prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cottrell

As Nige said at the time

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi...%20traffickers.

An aide to former UKIP leader Nigel Farage is facing up to 20 years in jail in the US after admitting to fraud.

George Cottrell struck a plea bargain with prosecutors, who said he had agreed to launder money for undercover agents posing as drug traffickers.

He was arrested in July as he and Mr Farage were preparing to return to the UK after the Republican convention.

Mr Farage told ITV he was surprised by what had happened and had "never had any suspicions" about the volunteer.

The MEP, who stood down as leader in November, told Good Morning Britain he could not be held responsible for "what everyone around me does"…

… Asked for his reaction, Mr Farage said Cottrell had never been employed by the party.

"He was a volunteer. He was unpaid. He was helping me do stuff. He'd been part of our party for a couple of years.

"We never had any suspicions about him at all. He faced 21 charges in America, 20 have been dropped. He's pleaded guilty to a C-grade felony. Listen, I can't be responsible for what everyone around me does."

He added: "He was 20 years old at the time this happened. Guilt, no guilt, fallen into bad company - I'm not sure."

C’mon, who amongst us has not accepted gifts from someone who has spent time in Federal prison after agreeing to launder money for undercover agents posing as drug traffickers?

[papa smurf]

conspiracy to - does that mean he didn't actually do it but was thinking about it