[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Chris

Quelle horreur!

pommes frites mayonnaise Chris

Originally Posted by techguyone

poor buggers, what a choice, trump or hillary, go merica..

It's a frightening thought for the rest of the world

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

JUNCKER BLASTS DEMOCRACY: EU chief brands MPs who represent voters 'part-time Europeans'

In an outspoken address the EU chief accused “some of our colleagues” of listening to the wishes of their own people rather than pandering to the vested interests of the Brussels elite.

Mr Juncker claimed the “highly exciting” period which led to the catastrophic decision to create the Euro was now “totally gone” and had been replaced by division caused by certain countries wanting to look after their own people rather than the EU project.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...ritain-Cameron

Yet another reason to vote Leave!

[Ignitionnet]

So the Express do have the video evidence for this speech in full where Juncker blasted 'part-time Europeans', so that I can review the evidence and context myself?

I'm a leaver, but this stuff about the UK avoiding TTIP by voting out is utter fantasy. Look at the ideologues running the country. They'd be bending the country over the barrel, lowering our food, environmental, pharmaceutical, etc, standards and inviting American private sector involvement in the NHS, because clearly they get such amazing value for money and outcomes there, before we have a chance to blink.

There is no way we wouldn't be signed up to something that makes TTIP look democratic and non-corporatist as soon as is feasible.

[Sirius]

Should we win the No Vote here's how to deal with the trash

[Big Brian]

This is what we have been saying should we vote to remain in the EU. It doesn't matter what Cameron did or did not achieve:

EXCLUSIVE: Brussels plot to impose Euro law after EU referendum a 'threat to our freedom'

BRUSSELS is plotting to impose Euro law on the UK in a move which will cost the British people their “personal freedom” for good, a senior democracy campaigner has told Express.co.uk.

Plans to create a centralised EU prosecutor will fatally undermine our legal system and kill off the principles of trial by jury and ‘innocent until proven guilty’ which have been the fundamental rights of Britons since the Magna Carta.

Express.co.uk has learned that a European Public Prosecutor’s Office (EPPO), which would have sweeping powers to pursue British citizens, is expected to be up and running by the end of this year.

Today Christopher Gill, president of The Freedom Association, warned that the relentless march towards a uniform European legal system based on continental law, which was rebuffed in the early 2000’s, will get back under way as soon as Britain votes to remain in the 28-nation bloc.

[arcimedes]

Information on the proposed public prosecutor. It seems only to deal with EU wide financial fraud etc. However the I am sure the Express will disagree

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/criminal...r/index_en.htm

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I'm a leaver, but this stuff about the UK avoiding TTIP by voting out is utter fantasy. Look at the ideologues running the country. They'd be bending the country over the barrel, lowering our food, environmental, pharmaceutical, etc, standards and inviting American private sector involvement in the NHS, because clearly they get such amazing value for money and outcomes there, before we have a chance to blink.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-eu-trade-deal


As a leave result would put us at the back of the queue for a trade deal with the US I'm all for it. The longer the better.

Cameron would be gone and we would have time to let whichever government know we don't want TTIP.

[Hom3r]

We vote to leave Cameron and Osbourne should resign, and a general election called.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

We vote to leave Cameron and Osbourne should resign, and a general election called.

Which given that Labour is in disarray and tearing itself apart, the Lib Dems a busted flush and the likelihood of Boris as PM would result in a landslide Tory administration. Is that what you really want?

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Which given that Labour is in disarray and tearing itself apart, the Lib Dems a busted flush and the likelihood of Boris as PM would result in a landslide Tory administration. Is that what you really want?

TBH I'd rather Boris than Cameron as PM, and I will never vote tory.

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Plus Cameron would have to resign because he wan't us to stay in the EU.

If reports are true its because of the fat pension he would lose if we leave.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

TBH I'd rather Boris than Cameron as PM

On that we can agree.

Originally Posted by Hom3r

TBH I'd rather Boris than Cameron as PM, and I will never vote tory.

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Plus Cameron would have to resign because he wan't us to stay in the EU.

If reports are true its because of the fat pension he would lose if we leave.

What fat pension?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

If reports are true its because of the fat pension he would lose if we leave.

I'm not aware Dave has ever worked for the EU. Are you thinking of various other politicians, perhaps, who have obligations they have to keep in terms of not speaking against the EU in order to retain their pensions?

Now apparently our voting to leave might cause a world war my god I didn't realise how important the UK was in the EU after all these years we really are that pivotal. Politics of fear are becoming more and more pathetic and widespread, as far as war goes if the EU isn't stopped it will cause a war it's relentless push East has Russia feeling cornered and pursued. Ukraine is an EU disaster that wouldn't have happened if the EU had left well alone but the zealots within the EU will accept nothing less then total domination. My vote has been decided for a very longtime and none of the recent fear mongering has lessoned it one bit and I truly hope the majority of the UK start seeing the EU for what it is and vote to get out as well.