52nd State

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

I'd take that for a start. The problem is it probably is never going to happen for one reason or another.

So since you agree that it isn't going to happen I suggest that you ditch the rose tinted glasses and pick a side- and I happen to know that the other side wants to kill you out of hand for the colour of your skin and what they assume your religion is. Choose wisely!

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Did marx right this

I lifted it straight off the communist manifesto by marx

Originally Posted by Ramrod

So since you agree that it isn't going to happen I suggest that you ditch the rose tinted glasses and pick a side- and I happen to know that the other side wants to kill you out of hand for the colour of your skin and what they assume your religion is. Choose wisely!

And I choose not to side with your opinion, as it is precisely because of people like you who aren`t even willing to give peace a chance that this cycle of violence will continue.

Originally Posted by Drudge

About 30 minutes ago the figures for Iraqi deaths due to Coalition action were

Combatant deaths between 9200 - 10800

Civilian deaths between 7878 - 9708

What's your source? Did you include the camel deaths?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

And I choose not to side with your opinion, as it is precisely because of people like you who aren`t even willing to give peace a chance that this cycle of violence will continue.

I agree we should give peace a chance.....only someone forgot to tell that to those peace loving chaps on theose planes on 9/11! Since there are countless more like them out there I say we should speak softly and carry a big stick.
Anyway, wtf does 'give peace a chance' mean exactly? Are you some sort of hippy?

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Are you some sort of hippy?

Well, you're only the second person to ever accuse me of that, but since I took it as a compliment first time around, thankyou.

[downquark1]

strange avator for a 'classic' hippy

I'm not - I'm for GM food and nuclear power.

I think any war should have a strong opposition purely for argument and justice sake. The fact is this war has set dangerous precidents and that worries me. If it's allowed once it can be allowed again.

Sometimes it is a good thing that the law is followed mechanically as Aristotle said 'Law is reason free from passion'

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Sometimes it is a good thing that the law is followed mechanically as Aristotle said 'Law is reason free from passion'

the trouble is that, very often 'the law is an ass'

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

Well, you're only the second person to ever accuse me of that, but since I took it as a compliment first time around, thankyou.

np m8, my pleasure
...but do comment on the rest of my post.....

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by downquark1

strange avator for a 'classic' hippy

Yes, he should have my avatar perhaps

[downquark1]

This is an interesting article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3283533.stm