13-06-2014, 14:37
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Re: Hillsborough Report
Miliband must surely have one of the worst political instincts of a party leader for a good while, maybe only rivaled by IDS. It's criminal how bad he is. He frequently misses opportunities to gain an advantage and walks into so many unforced mistakes. He is almost a non-entity, in the European Elections he was nowhere to be seen. It's almost as if he is paralyzed between embracing his own reserved geeky (for want of a better word) style and a desire to be more dynamic. He just seems really uncomfortable in being the later.
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That said he is ahead in the polls. Maybe his entire plan is to as quiet as possible and let the Tories fight amongst themselves.....He might actually be a political genius.
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13-06-2014, 16:18
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It could be Labour genius. Public demand Labour to install electable candidate = landslide victory.
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13-06-2014, 19:48
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Re: Hillsborough Report
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The Liverpool fans who just kept piling in at that end of the ground - I wonder what their memories and thoughts are now.
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Probably thinking you're a dick
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13-06-2014, 21:13
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Re: Hillsborough Report
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Well of course he is. He's sorry because he's made himself look like a completely out of touch **** masquerading as someone who cares about real people. Makes you wonder why anyone buys the sort of guff he and his party spout in their attempt to lie their way back into power.
He's only 'sorry' because he's been caught out and exposed for the duplicitous opportunist he is.
Axelrod looks like he was really good value...
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14-06-2014, 10:01
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So how about Cameron and Clegg who also obliged the Sun by doing the same thing..Don't they need to apologise as well?
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14-06-2014, 10:11
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Don't know what the fuss is about ,the second edition of the Sun was promoting the world cup ,nothing to do with Hillsborough.I think some perspective is needed
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14-06-2014, 10:23
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Re: Hillsborough Report
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So how about Cameron and Clegg who also obliged the Sun by doing the same thing..Don't they need to apologise as well?
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most people in Liverpool already dislike them anyway....
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14-06-2014, 10:33
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Re: Hillsborough Report
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Don't know what the fuss is about ,the second edition of the Sun was promoting the world cup ,nothing to do with Hillsborough.I think some perspective is needed
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It's just politically tone-deaf if anything.
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14-06-2014, 15:35
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most people in Liverpool already dislike them anyway.... 
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I'm just saying that some people keep asking for balance when it comes to politics but also fail to exercise that balance from time to time.
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15-06-2014, 18:05
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I'm just saying that some people keep asking for balance when it comes to politics but also fail to exercise that balance from time to time. 
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It didn't bother me who held up copies of the Sun - I was pointing out that it seemed to bother others, and that Mr. M felt the need to apologise.
I personally think he lost more support by apologising than by the initial action.....
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16-06-2014, 13:04
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Re: Hillsborough Report
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Probably thinking you're a dick
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Cheers for that you frogy git.
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16-06-2014, 14:32
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Re: Hillsborough Report
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Well of course he is. He's sorry because he's made himself look like a completely out of touch **** masquerading as someone who cares about real people.
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Considering everything else going on in the country and elsewhere, holding up a newspaper is hardly crime of the century.
It's understandable many are upset with the Sun over Hillsborough but to give a politician so much grief to force an apology is a bit OTT for what it is. It's fair enough people not liking it and using it as a reason not to vote for him, but forcing an apology when the intentions were to support our country is wrong.
It really is a shame people lost their loved ones in this incident but bashing everyone over every little connection doesn't benefit anyone.
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29-06-2014, 17:56
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you couldn't make it up..
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29-06-2014, 18:36
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They'll be lucky to get out of Liverpool alive.
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29-12-2016, 19:52
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