ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by PCNutter

Actually the higher the upload the better the ping .

Not true, the lower the congestion and hops from point to point, the lower the ping - and the physical distance to the server.
Hence if you ping your router it will be nr. 0 , if you ping another PC connected to your router it will be say 2ms, and as you venture further away it will increase.
A higher speed will help only in that the packet will not get stuck behind others trying to get to your machine, but realistically most gamers are not P2Ping or running windows update at the same time, thus this is not an issue.

[Mr Clean]

[Dobbo]

No upgrades last night i take it guess those people who were hoping that service status statement would be the upgrades are disapointed.

[sav112]

I thought someone said the 4th. I'm on 1mb so Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m only interested in seeing if it does roll out and what the 10mb is like to use.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by PCNutter

Actually the higher the upload the better the ping .

At the moment I am on bulldog 8 meg down, 579 up, and when I play on most uk servers I have a ping between 15-20.

However when I was on nildram 2mb down, 256 up I had a ping around 30/40.

That would be due to other factors, nildram peering may have been worse or the fact bulldog is llu and you bypass bt's network could be a factor.

[Peter]

Originally Posted by PCNutter

Actually the higher the upload the better the ping .

At the moment I am on bulldog 8 meg down, 579 up, and when I play on most uk servers I have a ping between 15-20.

However when I was on nildram 2mb down, 256 up I had a ping around 30/40.

That's not true. Upload has very little to do with ping response times, and upload has nothing to do with the speeds we're talking about.

A ping can be faster or slower due to the number of hops, the quality of the network etc

[markknell]

If your upload bandwidth is being fully utilised your download will slow, ping times will increase and so on as you cannot acknowledge packets.

I see this all the time when I'm downloading / UPLOADING and playing games online at the same time.

This **may** explain the low ping times experienced on the Bulldog service.

[samuel]

Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes

Wrong.

Please don't mis-quote me either, i'm not expecting to be reimbursed for my 3meg connection, just the difference between 2 and 3meg.

You can't tell people you will be making a 10meg service for those people who are on 3 meg and then not deliver. That actively encourages people to upgrade from a package below in the hope they get this 10meg. Please don't tell me there arn't many people who have done the same as me. It's mis-selling a product.

I am 99% sure they will too, as whenever i have reasoned with them in the past regards what is proper i have always got what i deserved.

Like i say, NTL won't want people asking for a refund on the difference anwyay, it will be out before Dec 31st guaranteed.

I haven't mis-quoted you....
You have used the difference between the 2meg and 3 meg haven't you? - therefore you can't ask a refund.

[Scopeuk]

i see both your points here but i have to say i strongly agree if you were told your new car was gonan be taken back in 2 months time and factory fitted with some performance parts then ti dident happen you could expect some compensation if nto a ful rembursal that is maby takign it a little far

[Downloads]

Originally Posted by samuel

I haven't mis-quoted you....
You have used the difference between the 2meg and 3 meg haven't you? - therefore you can't ask a refund.

You did mis-quote me.

I can ask for a refund and i would get it. I say would because it won't happen because they will do the 10meg before the year is out. There's no point carrying on this if and buts conversation anyway, lets just see what happens.

[PCNutter]

Lets say my friend was on a 56k modem and on the same network/isp as me i.e. same number of hops, contention etc), and I had a 579 upload, he would ping the same as me?

Not trying to be funny, just trying to understand.

[Scopeuk]

theorticaly unless his conection became saturated but thats a whole different issue (sturation is when there is no bandwirdth avaliable)
but its never gonan happen

[etccarmageddon]

have they actually written to you and said you're getting 10meg on a specific date or on or before a specific date? or are we basing this anticipated complaint on the press releases?

[Scopeuk]

its based on a press release

You know when i posted about complaining it was in jest. Now what do i see . Hand wringing on how you are going to sock it to NTL yet again and working out how you are going to get your money back. Jezz why don't you all put your heads together and see what else you can wring out of them.

Tell you what here's one

we don't pay for the electricity your box uses why don't you try and complain about that. You might get £1.00 back for that. .

Or for those it concerns we don't supple blank DVDs or Cd's why not see if you can get that reimbursed as well .