Motherboard Question

no he asked for a micro atx motherboard to fit in a bigger case.I give saxo the benefit there and think he made an error.why would anyone want a sff motherboard to fit in a larger case.Maybe im wrong but if I am saxo is wanting a micro atx board for a bigger case then he is more wrong than me

[Druchii]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

no he asked for a micro atx motherboard to fit in a bigger case.I give saxo the benefit there and think he made an error.why would anyone want a sff motherboard to fit in a larger case.Maybe im wrong but if I am saxo is wanting a micro atx board for a bigger case then he is more wrong than me

Why not? I did the same thing, bought a mATX board and an ATX case, leaves lots of room for cooling and anything else you might want, very good idea

[Graham M]

Originally Posted by Druchii

Why not? I did the same thing, bought a mATX board and an ATX case, leaves lots of room for cooling and anything else you might want, very good idea

Sorry, I dont follow you, how exactly does an ATX motherboard take up space ?? its a Wafer of composite materials about 2mm thick with components coming off that average about 10mm high, so youre not really gaining anything, but possibl losing features my 2p

[mhuggett]

SLI/Crossfire - Has anybody actually stumped up the £400+ to get 2 cards in their machines? It all seems a little pointless at the moment.
Unless you want to get that extra few frames over 70 (Not that your eye registers anything over 30 is it?) with the issue of running 2 lower cards giving frame rates and costing the same as a single higher card...
All seems a waste of money to me?

Fear will only run with full settings with 2 cards

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Originally Posted by Druchii

Why not? I did the same thing, bought a mATX board and an ATX case, leaves lots of room for cooling and anything else you might want, very good idea

why a simple answer all the chips and everything are close together on the board and if there not then all your losing is pci slots.The mainboard sitting to the rear of the case will get cooled fine anyway most of the heat comes from the cpu the gfx and the hard drives all of these your gonna have on a mATX or ATX

[Druchii]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Fear will only run with full settings with 2 cards ---------- Post added at 19:44 ---------- Previous post was at 19:42 ---------- why a simple answer all the chips and everything are close together on the board and if there not then all your losing is pci slots.The mainboard sitting to the rear of the case will get cooled fine anyway most of the heat comes from the cpu the gfx and the hard drives all of these your gonna have on a mATX or ATX

Ah, but i have controllers for my Zalman screwed into the spare holes and of course an extractor fan running from the last PCI slot that is spare (well, shortly, when it gets here)

My components get hot. They did in an ATX board as well. So, the extra room i used for cooling. Tis all

[mhuggett]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Fear will only run with full settings with 2 cards

You talking 1600x1200? With everything turned on?
Dont see £400+ worth it to be honest

whats it matter if its worth it or not people do it lol I wanted bought the cards I wanted it would be nearer 700 quid

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Originally Posted by Druchii

Ah, but i have controllers for my Zalman screwed into the spare holes and of course an extractor fan running from the last PCI slot that is spare (well, shortly, when it gets here)

My components get hot. They did in an ATX board as well. So, the extra room i used for cooling. Tis all

I own a fully loaded pc that gets thrapped and dont get hot my lian li cases work just fine

[AndrewJ]

BACK ON TOPIC.

I was after a micro atx in a atx full sized case because it would give a better footprint for adding cooling for the computer.

I do not need Sli as I don't play games which could make use of the power it needs plus I don't want the temptation to spend another £200 or so on another 7900gt.

Something which can handle dual core, pci-e and ddr400 which seems the normal would be cool.

Does Asus have any good ones out now for £100.

ok I stand corrected although I see flaws in the logic unless of course your going to install phaze cooling are you? if your not what do you intend to have in the bottom of the case?
As you should know the motherboard sits at the rear of the case(well if your looking through the open side) and all cooling that fits where a pci card would go wouldnt snag on a pci slot.All motherboards with have a north and south bridge chip the north actively cooled as standard(not always) A cpu which will be cooled however you choose and a gfx card with active cooling normally.If you cram all these onto a smaller board you will find the board area more cramped because all your ide sata molex leads are all going into a smaller area so there impedes your cooling to start off with. Full atx mobos tend to have componants spread over them making it easier surely to clear areas for air flow.Surely im speaking logically am I not?

[AndrewJ]

Yes Zingle I see your logic.

Mine was to fit a rotating cool air fan on the bottom of the case this would drive air upwards and inwards from the front of the case.

Coupled with the factor of the extractor fan sucking air out through the top I thought it would work well with a micro atx.

yeah although you need fans sucking air in and fans blowing them out theres a lot of differing ideas but not cases come fittings for cooling the machine in the most efficient way
You already have a device at the top of the case extracting hot air (psu) you need fans from bottom and fans rear high. as long as you get the balance right fine.If you try to invent your own methods then your goign to get the balance wrong which in itself defeats the object

[mhuggett]

And the more fans you have, the more noise you have.
I know that fans can be very very quiet, but still. It adds up.

[AndrewJ]

The computer is always on in the living room and the one I have is a noisy one to itself with 4 80mm case fans going ten to the dozen plus the fans on the cards inside the system.

I am accustomed to the noise.

make sure your case can house 120 mm fans from and rear and your sorted