24-03-2006, 15:37
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by Neil
My guess would be 'unlimited' but traffic shaped to hell (much like Pipex do now)
With Pipex, if you are a bandwidth hog, they write to you. If you don't tone it down, they throttle you leeching ability between 6pm & 12pm to silly download speeds to try to encourage you to leech in the wee small hours.
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I'd agree, personally I don't reach the cap now, but I've come close a few times, it would be nice to not have to worry about it.
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24-03-2006, 15:56
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by Neil
My guess would be 'unlimited' but traffic shaped to hell (much like Pipex do now)
With Pipex, if you are a bandwidth hog, they write to you. If you don't tone it down, they throttle you leeching ability between 6pm & 12pm to silly download speeds to try to encourage you to leech in the wee small hours.
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LOL.
Well...
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthre...Number=2240072
EDIT: please stop PM'ing me about this that's 3 so far and counting  I ain't going to answer.
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24-03-2006, 15:57
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
No surprise as I believe ntl are going to introduce shaping soon, however I think the shaping will be more like plusnet rather then pipex and be very heavy. This will also probably rule out 10meg on the lower tiers unless its capped.
Whats TOS?
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24-03-2006, 16:07
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by orangebird
There's a rumour staring on TOS that 10meg is going unlimited. Anyone here in the know?
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the urge to make a pun and ask should we give a TOS is overwhelming! seriously though what's tos? or perhaps I should ask, how do I become a TOSer?
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24-03-2006, 16:09
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
What's TOS?
Post 9 on this thread http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...94&postcount=9
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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
the urge to make a pun and ask should we give a TOS is overwhelming! seriously though what's tos? or perhaps I should ask, how do I become a TOSer?
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Oh I'd say you're already a fully paid up TOSer sir
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24-03-2006, 16:14
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
sorry found it. I think I was once a TOSer but now am just using this site.
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I personally think the current limit is fine and making it unlimited is an insult to those customers who are having speed issues.
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24-03-2006, 16:15
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
well I dont know what pipex use for shaping but plusnet are using ellacoyas.
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24-03-2006, 16:15
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
to say the info came from that site doesnt that stand to reason there more informed than you lot ?
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24-03-2006, 16:20
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
well I dont know what pipex use for shaping but plusnet are using ellacoyas.
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NTL are using underinvestment!
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24-03-2006, 16:40
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
NTL are using underinvestment!
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haha well thats contention on an extreme level as underinvestment.
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24-03-2006, 16:40
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
So now that NTL are (maybe) going the way of Telewest and becoming unlimited will they do the same as Telewest with the proxies and make them voluntary ?
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24-03-2006, 16:47
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by IanUK
So now that NTL are (maybe) going the way of Telewest and becoming unlimited will they do the same as Telewest with the proxies and make them voluntary ?
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I highly doubt it somehow...
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24-03-2006, 17:18
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by Neil
My guess would be 'unlimited' but traffic shaped to hell (much like Pipex do now)
With Pipex, if you are a bandwidth hog, they write to you. If you don't tone it down, they throttle you leeching ability between 6pm & 12pm to silly download speeds to try to encourage you to leech in the wee small hours.
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Hate to rain on your parade Neil but ntl own their network and are not subject to bandwidth restrictions placed on them by another ISP, unlike Plusnet and Pipex.
Please make educated guesses in future rather then let your personal war with ntl get in the way.
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24-03-2006, 17:25
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by jtwn
Hate to rain on your parade Neil but ntl own their network and are not subject to bandwidth restrictions placed on them by another ISP, unlike Plusnet and Pipex.
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Ok, so why do ntl have caps in place, & why were they one of the 1st UK (if no the 1st) ISPs to introduce them?
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Originally Posted by jtwn
Please make educated guesses in future rather then let your personal war with ntl get in the way.
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Ok...
First of all let's have a look at what I actually said shall we....?
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Originally Posted by Neil
My guess would be 'unlimited' but traffic shaped to hell (much like Pipex do now)
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Now I don't make uneducated guesses, so I'm not quite sure what your point actually is.
What has the fact that ntl own their network got to do with anything?
Please don't let your clouded view of me get in the way of a good discussion either.....
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24-03-2006, 17:35
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Re: 10 meg unlimited?
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Originally Posted by jtwn
...Please make educated guesses in future rather then let your personal war with ntl get in the way.
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sounded like an educated quess in my opinon.
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