Derby, you've let me down!!!

Originally Posted by Bill C

In that case remove his benefits for any more kids. Simple make him pay for them. Why should i or anyone else have to fund his bedroom PT.

Because then the children suffer. This is who the benefit is for, to help pay for his children. If you withdraw the benefit then you are punishing the kids for something they do not have control over.

Originally Posted by Damien

Because then the children suffer. This is who the benefit is for, to help pay for his children. If you withdraw the benefit then you are punishing the kids for something they do not have control over.

Then remove the ability to bring any more kids in to that situation or tell him straight you get no more benefit no matter what if you have any more kids. The man is a parasite on the benefits system and there should be a point where enough is enough.

Originally Posted by Bill C

Then remove the ability to bring any more kids in to that situation or tell him straight you get no more benefit no matter what if you have any more kids. The man is a parasite on the benefits system and there should be a point where enough is enough.

1. This man has not broken a law. We cannot multilate his body because we dont like what he does with it
2. Cutting off benefits will hurt the children. Not him.

Like it or not this is one of those times you have to accept defeat and that sometimes people we do not like win. You should take comfort in the fact that he is not harming you and file it under the heading 'life sucks'

[driver_problems]

Originally Posted by Damien

1. This man has not broken a law. We cannot multilate his body because we dont like what he does with it
2. Cutting off benefits will hurt the children. Not him.

Like it or not this is one of those times you have to accept defeat and that sometimes people we do not like win. You should take comfort in the fact that he is not harming you and file it under the heading 'life sucks'

looking at your age it is worth pointing out that you have not spent many years looking at how much gets removed from your earnings to pay for these so called 'people who do no harm'

Originally Posted by Damien

1. This man has not broken a law. We cannot mutilate his body because we dont like what he does with it Cutting
2. off benefits will hurt the children. Not him.Like

it or not this is one of those times you have to accept defeat and that sometimes people we do not like win. You should take comfort in the fact that he is not harming you and file it under the heading 'life sucks'

I stand by my first statement cut his bits off.

Originally Posted by driver_problems

looking at your age it is worth pointing out that you have not spent many years looking at how much gets removed from your earnings to pay for these so called 'people who do no harm'

Yeah

I am not going to argue about this really. Our two points of view are fairly different and are going to remain so.

I still stand by my remarks as well. It is a barbaric practice to 'cut his bits off' and cutting benefits will be punishing his kids.

I dont worry or get angry about this stuff because I prefere to concerate on actual stuff thats happening in my life instead of some prat with a couple of hores and 14 children in derby.

I am surprised the women dont put a stop to it. 14 children, they must be getting a bit tired by all of it now

[driver_problems]

Originally Posted by Damien

I dont worry or get angry about this stuff because I prefere to concerate on actual stuff thats happening in my life

so you're a nimby?

and what about the scenario where individuals who seek the introduction of barbaric sharia type laws are allowed to reproduce and propogate themselves in this manner - eg they all have families of 15 or so on the state who then, in turn, have more families of 15 living off the state and then soon you are outvoted and having your bits being cut off for not agreeing with the majority

No. I just dont see any alternatives and i am not going to lose sleep over it.

[injuneer]

Originally Posted by Damien

No. I just dont see any alternatives and i am not going to lose sleep over it.

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Originally Posted by injuneer

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by driver_problems

looking at your age it is worth pointing out that you have not spent many years looking at how much gets removed from your earnings to pay for these so called 'people who do no harm'

a considerable amount of my wages, vat, council tax, road tax goes to spongers/free loaders.

Originally Posted by Paul

Anyone else thinking that this waste of space shoulf fe*k off and support his own children or shut the fe*k up?? If you want 14 children then you should be able to fully house and support them yourself in my opinion.

So how many people is someone allowed to get child benefit for? (I am assuming it's child benefit since it says the benefit is paid to the women, and he's got a job, albeit part-time.)

Not forgetting that child benefit is there to benefit the child - they have no say in anything - they don't choose to be born, they don't chose their parents.

I think he has a nerve demanding anything - he'll get what there is to have as and when it is available. The situation is entirely of his own making. Kids out of 5 relationships!!! And apparently 2 of those 'relationships' running concurrently???

If he's expecting any sympathy, he's not going to get it, but the solution is not to breach his fundamental human rights, nor is it to disadvantage (further) the children involved.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by driver_problems

so you're a nimby?

and what about the scenario where individuals who seek the introduction of barbaric sharia type laws are allowed to reproduce and propogate themselves in this manner - eg they all have families of 15 or so on the state who then, in turn, have more families of 15 living off the state and then soon you are outvoted and having your bits being cut off for not agreeing with the majority

At risk of appearing stupid, what the hell has Sharia law got to do with a family who live in Derby? Last time I checked, Derby wasn't exactly well known for being a Muslim enclave in the West.

TBH, what business is it of anyone on here to dictate how many kids someone can have? As much as I couldn't stomach the idea of having 14 kids (just the one has deprived me of all my sleep over the last month) but, if he wants to keep having them, that's down to him, his wife and his girlfriend. The benefits system is there for everyone who is entitled to use it - just because some of us find it unpalatable doesn't mean that it's wrong

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by driver_problems

and what about the scenario where individuals who seek the introduction of barbaric sharia type laws are allowed to reproduce and propogate themselves in this manner - eg they all have families of 15 or so on the state who then, in turn, have more families of 15 living off the state and then soon you are outvoted and having your bits being cut off for not agreeing with the majority

i think you have more than driver problems to spout this sort of rubbish mate.......

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

a considerable amount of my wages, vat, council tax, road tax goes to spongers/free loaders.

But how do you know that this guy's a 'sponger' - it might not be much, but this guy has a job. Therefore (and I'm aware that it would depend on income / hours worked), he is also paying tax on his earnings. Moreover, there's no point bringing VAT into it, because he will also be paying that, he may well have a car so will (or should be ) paying road tax, and the chances are that he pays council tax (although that may well be at a reduced rate).