Muslims to march in London

[gooner4life]

I dont want to argue, I just wish to point out the double standards in peoples posts, if one posted a ridiculous comment that was against the march people would jump on them claiming racism etc, yet if it's a ridiculous comment that is praising the march it's accepted as correct.

Originally Posted by gooner4life

I dont want to argue, I just wish to point out the double standards in peoples posts, if one posted a ridiculous comment that was against the march people would jump on them claiming racism etc, yet if it's a ridiculous comment that is praising the march it's accepted as correct.

As the resident racist here (tongue firmly in cheek)
I feel I must speak out.

The march seems to have passed wihtout incident, good.
I've no complaints.

However HAD it been a repeat of the scenes we have witnessed across the globe then I would be very narked with the muslim population in general.

Yes i know I shouldnt tar them all, but muslim leaders are allegedly in "control" of their section of society, then they need to act as if they are.

I really dont give a toss about someones skin colour, sex or really religion, I say really to religion because some I just dont get, but thats neither here nor there.
They leave me alone I'm happy to leave them alone, they help me I'm happy to help them, They cause me trouble I'm their worst nightmare.

This is not racism, this is called living.

[marky]

I'm sorry, its just that the numbers dont add up, It was a peace march, all the hype before said it was going to be a riot sort of thing.
It didnt happen that way so some people are getting all annoyed.
Oh back to numbers, if .01% of muslims were extremists, i think we would know about it.
BTW i'm a white christian, who thinks that today proved that we shouldnt tar everybody with the same brush

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Hey Zinglebarb, Im not saying youre a racist because you disagree with the minority be they Irish, Black Chinese Asian, etc etc. What I am saying is that in many of the threads Ive read on tjhis forum, if there is any discussion about anything related to Muslims or Asains (irrespective of religion) theres always many comments post along the lines of If you dont like it you can go back to the middle east...your own country etc etc. Racial comments have been made irrespective of whether 'ur own country is in deed the UK'. Im not generalising all people in that same category, just some of the ones who do make racist statements or make statements with a racist undertone on these threads. I cannot believ that I am the only one who has picked up on this. If we compare an anti christian argument/viewpoint, the same can not be said.

I'd like to think what others think, because I honestly dont think Im the only one.

I think the "If you dont like it go back to your own country" comment, would happen in their country/countries if white westerners went there to settle and started making demands.

I dont think its always intended to be racist, however it is often used by the liberals to class someone as racist for making such a comment. If you were a pub landlord for instance and someone came in and complained about something in your pub, you would be well within your rights to tell them to go somewhere else if they dont like it. It does however seem that the same common sense attitude is not accepted by some people.

I agree with the statement "If they dont like it go back to where they came from" there's nothing racist in my intention with that statement, its simply like saying "When in Rome do as the romans do". I have no double standard, as I would not expect to go into their country and make demands.

The UK is not a traditional muslim country, muslims (or other faiths) coming into this country should integrate with society whilst still keeping their beliefs/traditions. I think the whole problem is with these people trying to keep themselves as a seperate state within the UK.

[herbert clinker]

what i can't understand is why they have to have the muslim parliament of great britain.
to me its like taking the p*ss,using the name parliament.
its like when west indians called there kids enoch,to take the p*ss out of enoch powell.
why do they need a parliament if they want to integrate with the rest of the uk.we've already got a parliament.
and why the muslim council of great britain and the muslim association of great britain.

and as for the march wasn't it dreamt up and part organised by ken livingstone.
say no more.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by herbert clinker

what i can't understand is why they have to have the muslim parliament of great britain.
to me its like taking the p*ss,using the name parliament.
its like when west indians called there kids enoch,to take the p*ss out of enoch powell.
why do they need a parliament if they want to integrate with the rest of the uk.we've already got a parliament.
and why the muslim council of great britain and the muslim association of great britain.

and as for the march wasn't it dreamt up and part organised by ken livingstone.
say no more.

I seem to recall they muslim council of great britain were trying to buy a building near Westminster to set up parliament a number of years ago.

I do smile when I hear reference to "muslim parliament of great britain" as we are discouraged from calling ourselves Great Britain, as the name Great Britain seems to be given a racist tag by the do-gooders.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Escapee

I think the "If you dont like it go back to your own country" comment, would happen in their country/countries if white westerners went there to settle and started making demands.

I dont think its always intended to be racist, however it is often used by the liberals to class someone as racist for making such a comment. If you were a pub landlord for instance and someone came in and complained about something in your pub, you would be well within your rights to tell them to go somewhere else if they dont like it. It does however seem that the same common sense attitude is not accepted by some people.

I agree with the statement "If they dont like it go back to where they came from" there's nothing racist in my intention with that statement, its simply like saying "When in Rome do as the romans do". I have no double standard, as I would not expect to go into their country and make demands.

The UK is not a traditional muslim country, muslims (or other faiths) coming into this country should integrate with society whilst still keeping their beliefs/traditions. I think the whole problem is with these people trying to keep themselves as a seperate state within the UK.

I couldn't have put that better myself. I have long been narked at people getting uppity with the 'if you don't like it here go home' thing. I have said it many times here but I'll say it again.....some people here are British only because their passport says they are. Their hearts belong to the country that their forefathers came from....if they don't want to integrate and have a problem with the UK they should go back to the country that they want to turn this one into.

The thing is are muslims giving a platform to condem/speak out against violance? Often they are not, leading in the impression they are keeping quiet.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by herbert clinker

what i can't understand is why they have to have the muslim parliament of great britain.
to me its like taking the p*ss,using the name parliament.
its like when west indians called there kids enoch,to take the p*ss out of enoch powell.
why do they need a parliament if they want to integrate with the rest of the uk.we've already got a parliament.
and why the muslim council of great britain and the muslim association of great britain.

and as for the march wasn't it dreamt up and part organised by ken livingstone.
say no more.

I take it you also object to the Anglican Synod and the British Council then?

[Mr Angry]

Quote:
Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke
If all religion was scrapped tomorrow the world would be a better place in my opinion!

Religion is said to be the cause of more deaths every year than anything else!

How sad is that!

Originally Posted by Russ D

Or more accurately, how wrong is that.

Who is it who has 'said' that? Religion has not caused any more deaths than any other other interest/mindset but it's often used as an excuse.

That's a bizarre contradiction.

[Russ]

Why is it a contradiction?

[Mr Angry]

"Religion has not caused any more deaths than any other other interest/mindset but it's often used as an excuse."

It's a self contradictory statement.

The fact is that the original poster was entirely right.

History speaks for itself. The crusades, the Spanish inquisition, the holocaust, Rwanda, the Balkans, Iraq etc etc. Religion is bad news when it comes to costing lives.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

"Religion has not caused any more deaths than any other other interest/mindset but it's often used as an excuse."

It's a self contradictory statement.

No it's not

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

The fact is that the original poster was entirely right.

For 'fact' read 'my opinion is'.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

History speaks for itself. The crusades, the Spanish inquisition, the holocaust, Rwanda, the Balkans, Iraq etc etc. Religion is bad news when it comes to costing lives.

No, religion didn't cause any of those. Nowhere did any of the holy teachings of any of them say "go out and kill because I told you to". Religion was used as the excuse. For example there are gangs who take flicknives to football matches and kick seven bells in to each other.

Did football cause the fights?

No, it was used as the excuse. People will kill and fight no matter what - all they need is an excuse.

[Xaccers]

If football/religion didn't exist, those specific fights wouldn't have occured, as they wouldn't have had the excuse
It's a grey area.