Should they be published in the UK?

Originally Posted by dezzo

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoonpro...703925,00.html

Yep and purposely running cartoons satirising it is asking for trouble. (Well asking for more trouble)

Clearly two wrongs DO make a right - for them, anyway.

It's no wonder they're still bitching about the Crusades. I'm beginning to think that the words 'forgive' and 'forget' don't appear in the Koran or Hadith or any language spoken by Muslims.

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Originally Posted by Nugget

I'm not sure that they should have been arrested, but they definitely deserve a slap around the back of the head for being morons.

What they were doing was not illegal. According to the Muslims protester(s) that's a perfectly adequate excuse for their behaviour...

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

From the Guardian letters pages:

Now THAT is the attitude that should be part of ALL Muslim's approach to life in the 21st century.

[Gareth]

Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

What they were doing was not illegal. According to the Muslims protester(s) that's a perfectly adequate excuse for their behaviour...

Works both ways though... printing satirical cartoons of religious figures is not illegal in Denmark, France, the UK, etc...

For the record, I'd argue that inciting violence and racial hatred is illegal.

Also, for the record, defacing websites is illegal, but that's not stopping some people - http://www.zone-h.org/en/news/read/id=205987/ I just wish they'd stop the constant port scanning I'm seeing too

This just gets sillier, now Sadam Hussain is elevated to the same level as Muhammad!

A town in Belgium has banned an artwork of Saddam Hussein for fear that it will put off tourists and offend Muslims.

That's Islamic extremism for you - it's now managed to get people to fear it enough to even avoid perceived confrontation.

How much further will we go to appease these nutters?

It is time to stand up to them and let it be know that we will NOT be dominated by Islam, and NEVER by force.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

What they were doing was not illegal. According to the Muslims protester(s) that's a perfectly adequate excuse for their behaviour...

Actually, I'd say that there would be a fairly good case for inciting racial violence. As I said, handing out the very documents that were the root cause of the trouble in the first place was hardly the most intelligent thing to do.

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

This just gets sillier, now Sadam Hussain is elevated to the same level as Muhammad!
That's Islamic extremism for you - it's now managed to get people to fear it enough to even avoid perceived confrontation.

How much further will we go to appease these nutters?

It is time to stand up to them and let it be know that we will NOT be dominated by Islam, and NEVER by force.

Well, that does say that part of the reason is because it may offend Muslims - it is rather convenient to ignore the bit about putting tourists off though, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Nugget

Well, that does say that part of the reason is because it may offend Muslims - it is rather convenient to ignore the bit about putting tourists off though, isn't it?

Since I imagine the ONLY reason it would put off tourists could possibly the threat of a reaction from Islamic extremists, then I think that was fair enough.

After all, a tourist could simply avoid the exhibition...

My main point was that Sadam is not a person venerated by Muslims, so what's the problem. Anyone that doth protest about it can only be considered a Sadam sympathiser.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

Since I imagine the ONLY reason it would put off tourists could possibly the threat of a reaction from Islamic extremists, then I think that was fair enough.

After all, a tourist could simply avoid the exhibition...

My main point was that Sadam is not a person venerated by Muslims, so what's the problem. Anyone that doth protest about it can only be considered a Sadam sympathiser.

It'd probably put me off the exhibition because I don't particularly want to gawp at his ugly fizzog, but that's just me...

What you'll probably find is that the people who are in charge of the exhibition have jumped on the bandwagon somewhat - completely pointless IMO, seeing as Saddam isn't venerated in general. However, I wouldn't see this as anyone 'bowing down to Islam' - more a misguided attempt to appease people

[basa]

Originally Posted by Nugget

It'd probably put me off the exhibition because I don't particularly want to gawp at his ugly fizzog, but that's just me...

What you'll probably find is that the people who are in charge of the exhibition have jumped on the bandwagon somewhat - completely pointless IMO, seeing as Saddam isn't venerated in general. However, I wouldn't see this as anyone 'bowing down to Islam' - more a misguided attempt to appease people

To my mind this is just symptomatic of the fear all westerners are feeling about reprisals from these nutters, instead of stamping down hard on them and telling them this is Europe and we do not share or kowtow to extremist Islamic values.

[NitroNutter]

Originally Posted by Mick

'Bomb' Protester has now been arrested:- http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...503868,00.html

I saw on sky news earlier, they said while dealing he was funding the radical british muslim organisation, guess he is still a radical then, I guess he isnt really that sorry except he has returned to jail, and I guess he wore the mocked up bomb jacket to do more than stir sensetive memories for the victims families of the july events.

Funny the area he lives aswell, as thats one of the places thats been seen for vans full of arms being offloaded and distributed, drugs is rife and little is done to stop any of it.

Its rather well known the radical mulsim youth is selling drugs in a big way, they see it as a triple victory, 1 they get western money, two they mess up western life, and finally they wound the western lifestyle in preparation for the global domination cause. This is also the attitude of some of if not all the the poppy farms sending millions of tonnes of heroin here anually from afghanistan.

Originally Posted by Nugget

I wouldn't see this as anyone 'bowing down to Islam' - more a misguided attempt to appease people

Because they're appeasing Muslims - i.e. people of Islam.

Originally Posted by Nugget

Actually, I'd say that there would be a fairly good case for inciting racial violence. As I said, handing out the very documents that were the root cause of the trouble in the first place was hardly the most intelligent thing to do.

Have you stopped to think that they could have been proving a point?

After all, they were arrested, the muslims werent. Does that not show you that there is a biased view on things in the met? does it not prove that th ebig bad whiteman is not allowed to speak his mind in case he might upset someone of a differeing sexuality, nationality, religion, house number, car driver, left or right hander?

there is nothing to describe both the muslim reaction to the cartoons and the subsequent violence and the complete inaction of the police to uphold the law of the nation. Its pathetic, its outrageous, its distgusting.

Its no wonder there is so much hatred in the world, I am beginning to suspect that the muslim world is beginning to lose control over its extremists. If that happens then world war 3 will be in the middle east.

[herbert clinker]

i watched newsnight last night,and they had some muslim extremist prat on there spouting his excuses for all the violence thats been happening across europe these last few days and about how the muslims are suppresed in european countries.
at one point he let it slip that britain belonged to allah then he realised what he had said and corrected himself.
well if thats muslims for you i'm voting BNP from now on,because i'm coming to the conclusions that muslims speak with forked tongue and maybe nick griffin is right the muslim extremists do want britain as an islamic state,especially after watching this prat on the bbc last night.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by herbert clinker

i watched newsnight last night,and they had some muslim extremist prat on there spouting his excuses for all the violence thats been happening across europe these last few days and about how the muslims are suppresed in european countries.
at one point he let it slip that britain belonged to allah then he realised what he had said and corrected himself.
well if thats muslims for you i'm voting BNP from now on,because i'm coming to the conclusions that muslims speak with forked tongue and maybe nick griffin is right the muslim extremists do want britain as an islamic state,especially after watching this prat on the bbc last night.

'Muslims speak with forked tongue'? Well, how that's an acceptable phrase in todays world. I'll never know.

If we're going to make such sweeping generalisations, why don't we tar all white Christians as football hooligans? Sounds stupid, but it's the same thing.

Anyway, to a Christian, Britain would technically belong to God, seeing as God created everything - what's to say that this guy on the TV doeasn't have the same opinion, just substituting 'Allah' for 'God'

Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

Have you stopped to think that they could have been proving a point?

After all, they were arrested, the muslims werent. Does that not show you that there is a biased view on things in the met? does it not prove that th ebig bad whiteman is not allowed to speak his mind in case he might upset someone of a differeing sexuality, nationality, religion, house number, car driver, left or right hander?

there is nothing to describe both the muslim reaction to the cartoons and the subsequent violence and the complete inaction of the police to uphold the law of the nation. Its pathetic, its outrageous, its distgusting.

Its no wonder there is so much hatred in the world, I am beginning to suspect that the muslim world is beginning to lose control over its extremists. If that happens then world war 3 will be in the middle east.

But at least the MAJORITY of the muslims in this country are not demonstrating or rioting.There were very few of them involved in both demonstrations last week in proportion to those that STAYED HOME and are just as p*ssed by the placards as you are, because the whole thing has made people like you tar and feather all the rest of the muslims in this country because of the actions of a few.The rest of the world is not my concern just this one United Kingdom and if we can keep it calm we can make sure that no one gets any more hurt than they have already been.As to what happens in the Middle East the sooner we find alternative forms of energy to oil the better for the world.

Originally Posted by herbert clinker

i watched newsnight last night,and they had some muslim extremist prat on there spouting his excuses for all the violence thats been happening across europe these last few days and about how the muslims are suppresed in european countries.
at one point he let it slip that britain belonged to allah then he realised what he had said and corrected himself.
well if thats muslims for you i'm voting BNP from now on,because i'm coming to the conclusions that muslims speak with forked tongue and maybe nick griffin is right the muslim extremists do want britain as an islamic state,especially after watching this prat on the bbc last night.

If anybody has that interview available on a video file download i'd like to see it.

[herbert clinker]

Originally Posted by Nugget

'Muslims speak with forked tongue'? Well, how that's an acceptable phrase in todays world. I'll never know.

If we're going to make such sweeping generalisations, why don't we tar all white Christians as football hooligans? Sounds stupid, but it's the same thing.

Anyway, to a Christian, Britain would technically belong to God, seeing as God created everything - what's to say that this guy on the TV doeasn't have the same opinion, just substituting 'Allah' for 'God'

so what would you do nugget,would you appease them these muslim extremists.
you seem to be good at pulling other people down,i've put my beliefs on show for all to see.how about you telling us what you'd do to rid the country of the muslim extremist because i'll tell you this whil'st there's people like you around they aint gonna go away.
oh and can't you see if these guy's get there way there won't be a christian britain anymore.