Should they be published in the UK? - Page 15

**Maggy** · 06-02-2006, 15:12

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But where is the offence that is supposed to have been committed on 'our' (for want of a better word) side? As far as I'm aware, Newsnight broadcasting brief glimpses of the cartoons (and obfuscating them too!) does not constitute anything illegal. On the other hand, some of the protestors that were photographed and filmed in London during the past few days have been breaking the law, ie racial hatred, inciting violence, etc...

We could argue that one group was acting immorally, whereas the other was acting illegally. But why have there have been no arrests?

Well why not wait and see IF there are any?And AS I did point out there are those muslims who are just as mystified as we are about the fuss.

Ramrod · 06-02-2006, 15:15

The 'suicide bomber' has apologised link

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He said his method of protest on Friday had offended many people, especially the families of the July bombing victims.

"This was not my intention.

"What happened in July was a tragedy and un-Islamic.

"I do not condone these murderous acts, do not support terrorism or extremism and would like to apologise unreservedly and wholeheartedly to the families of the victims."

He added: "I understand it was wrong, unjustified and insensitive of me to protest in this way."

Asif Nadim, from a Bedford mosque, said the Muslim community distanced itself from Mr Khayam's actions and supported his apology.

"Looking at this from an Islamic point of view, this was totally un-Islamic.

"We distance ourselves from the act that he has actually caused and the pain that he has caused for the families of the victims of the London bombings."

He said Mr Khayam was "very, very ashamed" of his actions and hoped that it would be the end of the matter.

Derek · 06-02-2006, 15:17

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T He said Mr Khayam was "very, very ashamed" of his actions and hoped that it would be the end of the matter.

Translation:

Oh bugger I might get arrested because of that.
And if I do I'll get a severe kicking in jail.
I suppose I better apologise instead of gloating and saying I'd do it again.

Not that I'm the cynical type at all.

etccarmageddon · 06-02-2006, 15:19

perhaps his parents threatened to cut off his.... pocket money!

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I dont care about his appology (although deserved) - he should be arrested and charged.

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he needs to pay the price for his actions, some community service picking up litter at the least.

**Maggy** · 06-02-2006, 15:21

OK the only resident liberal is outa here.

06-02-2006, 15:21

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

The 'suicide bomber' has apologised link

It 'sounds' like a genuine apology - perhaps he had second thoughts after he'd heard the criticism of his actions.

Good for him, anyway.

etccarmageddon · 06-02-2006, 15:23

but no explanation of why he did it? was he high on something at the time or just stupid? I'm still puzzled why.

Gareth · 06-02-2006, 15:25

hear hear

Nugget · 06-02-2006, 15:28

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but no explanation of why he did it? was he high on something at the time or just stupid? I'm still puzzled why.

I wouldn't have thought there was any need for a reason as to why he did it - it could be any number of things. He could have been swept up in the 'emotion' of it all (for want of a better word), or he actually be a radical extremist (although I doubt that due to the fact that he has apologised). It might just be that, yep, he's a bit of a numpty.

Having said all of that, I think it takes some guts to admit that you might have acted somewhat foolishly, so fair play to him. Doesn't necessarily make what he did right, but at least he's gone some way to make amends.

Ramrod · 06-02-2006, 15:28

I think that his parents and temple elders had seen him on telly and when he got back home from London he got the biggest b*llocking of his life and was ordered to issue that apology

06-02-2006, 15:29

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OK the only resident liberal is outa here.

Don't. We need all the level heads we can get on this one.

marky · 06-02-2006, 15:30

Correct me if i'm wrong, if you walked into a bank with a fake gun you would get 5yrs+ in jail.
If you strap a fake bomb to yourself and stand chanting outide an Embassy, you get slapped wrists.

06-02-2006, 15:32

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but no explanation of why he did it? was he high on something at the time or just stupid? I'm still puzzled why.

We know why. He even says so (i.e. offended by the cartoons.) I suppose he was probably also caught up in his local protests.

I can understand why he did it - and I'm glad to see he appears to have realised just how wrong he was. Hopefully other 'extremists' will see his example and realise that they too have been reckless in the protests.

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If you strap a fake bomb to yourself and stand chanting outide an Embassy, you get slapped wrists.

We don't know yet if his apology has bought him anything...

etccarmageddon · 06-02-2006, 15:34

I hope he is charged and his apology is taken into account in his sentencing if found guilty.

06-02-2006, 15:39

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I hope he is charged and his apology is taken into account in his sentencing if found guilty.

I actually think the CPS would find it quite difficult to bring a case against him. I don't think dressing as a suicide bomber is illegal, and now he's apologised a court would have to be really trying to set an example (something they tend not to do) to proceed.

I'm actually far more concerned about the banner waving idiots who were hiding behind their masks, than one of the few people who openly protested.