Should they be published in the UK?

[Derek]

Originally Posted by punky

Any complaints from Christians regarding blasphemy are very few and far between, and usually consist of peaceful protests with dozens rather than thousands of people.

Probably the best example I can think of would be the protests about Jerry Springer: The Opera last year.

A couple of hundred protestors and no-one wanting to behead the writers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/4154071.stm

[punky]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

So that'll be a 'yes we are extremists' then......

Just picked a copy of the Standard Lite.
On P.6 the man who protested dressed like a suicide bomber has said:

I'm not sorry and I would do it again.

Apparently because his clothes could be bought from a shop and not illegal, then it was OK.

Never mind the upset and offence he caused to people who have suffered at the acts of suicide bombers on 7/7. These people have complained with 'shock and outrage' (although they did not dress up as peace activists or protest carrying banners promoting love & understanding) and called in 'an insult'.

To which our protester said:

I can't make any apology for it.

Apparently apologising for offending someone is a one-way street that only non-Muslims have to follow.

He also said (of his 'costume'):

I admit that it may have appeared...a bit provocative - but that's not illegal in this country.

And neither are those cartoons.

The sooner we have them published them, the better - let these terrorists know we will not bow to their violence.

[Gareth]

Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

Nonsense. The ban on religious symbols extends to all faiths, and isn't an attack on any faith. Again, it's mostly the Muslims that had to go make a big issue out of it, including more of the 'sour apples' being rather extreme.

Spot on - it's funny how the ban applied equally to Christian crosses and Jewish skullcaps, not just Muslim headscarves, yet nobody else complained. Other religions accepted that it is part of French law to separate religion from the State, and that if you choose to live in a particular country, you live by the laws of the said country - you don't pick and choose only the laws that you want to have applied. If you don't like it, then go live somewhere else.

[handyman]

I think we might have taken on more than we can handle trying to allow this country to become multi-cultural. Many cultures cannot get on even when they are separated by borders why should we ever have expected them integrate into one society?

I definitely not a racist for sure I think that there is a wealth of knowledge we can gain from other cultures and they can get from us.

I do think that as a rule we are not mature enough to be integrated with other cultures. Same goes for them. Maybe it's time to start reversing the trend of allowing everyone in, it's clearly not working however good the intentions where.

[TheDaddy]

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, it may just be me reading thing's into stuff but several times on the news I have seen so called moderate Muslims as guests being interviewed about some alleged injustice or other, turn round and say that if the injustice is not addressed then the extremists will take action, now to some that may sound like a warning, to me it sounded like blackmail, 'do as we say or we will let the extremist's of the leash'.

[etccarmageddon]

perhaps because their religion is different to the others you have quoted and is more a way of life. re the school head dress fuss.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

...that if the injustice is not addressed then the extremists will take action,...

To me that's as good as excusing the extremists.

(BTW, some of those should be re-labelled 'terrorists', since their protests are clearly designed to terrorise us into compliance.)

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

perhaps because their religion is different to the others you have quoted and is more a way of life. re the school head dress fuss.

I'd argue that the skull-cap is as integral to Jewish life as anything the Muslims have. Ditto for the crucifix for huge numbers of Catholics.

The big difference is that the other faiths haven't raised items of apparel to some divine status.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Gareth

Spot on - it's funny how the ban applied equally to Christian crosses and Jewish skullcaps, not just Muslim headscarves, yet nobody else complained. Other religions accepted that it is part of French law to separate religion from the State, and that if you choose to live in a particular country, you live by the laws of the said country - you don't pick and choose only the laws that you want to have applied. If you don't like it, then go live somewhere else.

The reason for this IMO is that Muslims are supremists, it is ok to criticise, mock, censure etc any other faith as long as it is not Islam.

They think they're better than us, and look down on any other faith group.

I'm glad to see at last some our politicians speaking out.

[basa]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The reason for this IMO is that Muslims are supremists, it is ok to criticise, mock, censure etc any other faith as long as it is not Islam.

They think they're better than us, and look down on any other faith group.

I'm glad to see at last some our politicians speaking out.

Dead (no pun intended) right !

Re: our politicians ..... Too little, WAAAAY to late !

BTW I wonder where the usual CF PC defenders of the faith brigade are ??

[Russ]

Originally Posted by basa

BTW I wonder where the usual CF PC defenders of the faith brigade are ??

On a self-imposed exile, I believe.

[herbert clinker]

nick griffin must be laughing his head off.these nutters with there placards are doing his job for him.

Originally Posted by Russ D

On a self-imposed exile, I believe.

Out looking at the fact that the majority of both sides of the debate are not physically attacking one another in the UK.That there are no riots here and that moderate muslims,christians,hindus,sikhs,buddists,athiests are all able to debate this without coming to blows.That the moderate British muslims want those placard carrying extremists arrested for breaking the law just as much as anyone else.

I feel very heartened that thus far there has only been a minor demonstration outside an embassy with some possibly illegal activity,another march peaceful of about 400 and no embassy actually being burned to the ground.If we can try to accept that there is offence on both sides over this then maybe a dialogue can take place that allows for a better understanding of what a united British society will or will not find acceptable.

Britain can possibly be a beacon of what IS achievable if only we don't let rhetoric and injured feelings undermine what is the best thing about us British.The ability to adapt.

Of course I may just be invisible...

Originally Posted by herbert clinker

nick griffin must be laughing his head off.these nutters with there placards are doing his job for him.

He's been shouting from the rooftops for years that this is what would happen...

[Gareth]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

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But where is the offence that is supposed to have been committed on 'our' (for want of a better word) side? As far as I'm aware, Newsnight broadcasting brief glimpses of the cartoons (and obfuscating them too!) does not constitute anything illegal. On the other hand, some of the protestors that were photographed and filmed in London during the past few days have been breaking the law, ie racial hatred, inciting violence, etc...

We could argue that one group was acting immorally, whereas the other was acting illegally. But why have there have been no arrests?