Should they be published in the UK?

[Mr Angry]

Kliro & STOP.

I'm not defending anyone here but I think we all have to assume, offensive though the placards may be, that if no one is being, has been, or is arrested then by that logic the police are content that no laws are being broken.

[NitroNutter]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Kliro & STOP. I'm not defending anyone here but I think we all have to assume, offensive though the placards may be, that if no one is being, has been, or is arrested then by that logic the police are content that no laws are being broken.

Or perhaps they are just exercising a stand back position while its no more than waving some placards, I mean if some offence is going to be taken over some crappy drawings then what offence would be taken when some protestors who may well be over stepping the mark got arrested ?

Oh and I have not seen any of these cartons, I am guessing because I havnt gone looking for them, so they cant be that big a news, what can be seen with out a doubt is the furore following it up.

[Kliro]

Originally Posted by NitroNutter

Or perhaps they are just exercising a stand back position while its no more than waving some placards, I mean if some offence is going to be taken over some crappy drawings then what offence would be taken when some protestors who may well be over stepping the mark got arrested ?

Spot on IMO, police are taking pictures, and videoing - they can and will go round and tell your neighbours and employers what you have been doing, and can also arrest you with this video evidence after the event, I'm not sure what happens to those wearing face covering headwear though.

Originally Posted by Kliro

Spot on IMO, police are taking pictures, and videoing - they can and will go round and tell your neighbours and employers what you have been doing, and can also arrest you with this video evidence after the event, I'm not sure what happens to those wearing face covering headwear though.

Have you been following the news most are covering there faces. Give you two clues as to why

Ps latest news they have set fire to a Danish embassy

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...211365,00.html

EDIT: Norwegian one too now

Originally Posted by Kliro

and because of this, the BNP are going to be seeing a lot of new faces.

You're worrying about this?

Some of the literature on those placards:

"Massacre those who insult islam", "new 7/7 attacks", "I Love al-Qaeda", "Whoever insults a prophet, kill him", "Britain you will pay — 7/7 is on its way", "Behead those who insult Islam", "Europe — take some lessons from 9-11", "Europe you will pay", "UK go to hell"

Seriously. The BNP are nothing compared to the people in those protests yesterday.

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And the BNP have been dragged through the courts for saying that 'Islam is a vicious faith', and what happened to people who created these threatening, disturbing, violent placards yesterday? Absolutely nothing.
I never argue in favour of the BNP, but there are huge double standards here.

[NitroNutter]

The point that really should be questioned is why and how has some crappy cartoon strip in a small poxy national paper of one country which apparently printed them almost 6 months ago suddenly been blown up into an international crisis ?
The fuel for the fire has to have come from somewhere, so how long has these protests been in the planning ?
If its just some recent spontaious thing then how come its took so long after the alleged offence took place ?
If the protests have been in the planning for a while then there may well be a reason for them to be coming about in the last few days ?
I highly doubt theres many copies in circualtion today of the issues of these offending cartoons, if they are from last September as most just bin the daily papers they get on a day by day or week by week basis.

I can only think of one possible reason why such public protests regarding this issue, containing anti west statements is, and that is to promote as much anti west as possible among the Islamic population and promote as much as possible anti Islam among the west.

Originally Posted by STOP

Let a British paper publish the cartoons and see if Islam comes first or the country that feeds them

Well we can see that you are not in the mature and adult majority.

And why you quoted me and gave this response has confused the hell out of me.It has nothing to do with what I said.You are equal to those hotheads in the Muslim community who are pushing this issue from the oposite side.Thankfully they are a minority as are you.Out to make trouble no matter what.

Which in light of your err removal request at being busted elsewhere just underlines that you were out to make trouble.

what we have to remember here is that muslims can say what they want.


If I walked the streets with a placard saying death to muslims I would be done for inciting racial hatred.

Further proof that the race laws in this country a nothing but a ****ing joke.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

what we have to remember here is that muslims can say what they want.


If I walked the streets with a placard saying death to muslims I would be done for inciting racial hatred.

Further proof that the race laws in this country a nothing but a ****ing joke.

The end result will be bloodshed, as long as the government applies different rules to different cultures things will continue to boil until the inevitable happens.

I am "not" a supporter of the BNP even if I do agree with "some" of their views. I do however disagree with the way the government/police look the other way in these incidents, but would not do the same for a group of BNP supporters doing the same. I think the actions of these protesters cannot be tolerated, the end result without any doubt will be more people supporting the BNP.

These protesters are using a few cartoons of very little significance as an excuse to "incite racial voilence" their actions will take our society back to the racist attitudes of the 60s,70's and 80's. Much has improved towards equality, acceptance and tolerance of other cultures and religions, to let these protestors carry on will only demolish all that has been achieved over the years in this country.

I have always held the view that trouble would brew in years to come as governments have bowed down and been to lenient to other cultures living here whilst not giving the same treatment to the long term citizens, I think however the actions of these protestors and the like will bring trouble much sooner.

[NitroNutter]

There is another downside for the police witnessing and not taking action regards such protests as these where hatred does appear to be incited, they could well be used in defence for appeals on convitions allready made under these or similar laws or for the grounds for dismissal of current and future cases.

[Mr Angry]

"I have always held the view that trouble would brew in years to come as governments have bowed down and been to lenient to other cultures living here whilst not giving the same treatment to the long term citizens, I think however the actions of these protestors and the like will bring trouble much sooner."

This illustrates a point I made in my earlier post. For the purposes of my analogy let's assume that you are white, were born in and still live in London and consider yourself to be a "long term citizen".

What distinction is there between you and a muslim of coloured skin exactly the same age as you born, say for example, in Birmingham that makes you a "long term citizen" and him not?

Before any MODs kneejerk and delete this I'd like to state that this is not an attack on the poster who made the original comment, nor am I trying to "start trouble" or "offend" anyone. I just want to know what the definition of a "long term citizen" is and I feel that this is a crucial element of this discussion.

[marky]

Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

what we have to remember here is that muslims can say what they want.


If I walked the streets with a placard saying death to muslims I would be done for inciting racial hatred.

Further proof that the race laws in this country a nothing but a ****ing joke.

I wasnt going to post, but that is so true

[obvious]

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[TigaSefi]

That Enoch bloke was bang on then.......

[AndrewJ]

Originally Posted by obvious

Nice one.