Should they be published in the UK?

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Damien

Is a little respect for other peoples religion really that much to ask? Maybe if we are so worried about muslims forming there own communities and excluding others we should stop being hostile to them and treating them with such little respect.

We are going to force muslims to be outsiders if we are not careful

I agree but religon has caused more wars than land has, so I doubt that everybody will ever respect all religions.

Personally I care what religion people worship (I don't mean to insult anybody), as long as I'm not having people knocking on my door saying I should joint them.

Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

I cannot help but believe that a religion that is so prescriptive and restrictive is more of a burden to people than any kind of help. It clearly confuses their ideas of right & wrong, otherwise we wouldn't be watching the scenes of violent protest.

Perhaps it’s because they brainwash the children from birth and they grow up knowing nothing else?

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Damien

Is a little respect for other peoples religion really that much to ask? Maybe if we are so worried about muslims forming there own communities and excluding others we should stop being hostile to them and treating them with such little respect.

We are going to force muslims to be outsiders if we are not careful

Unfortunately there is a double standard in the Muslim press which frequently publishes derogatory caroons about the Jews.

Yes I do think this has been an extreem over reaction by a few muslims who it appears are almost spoiling for a fight using any excuse to create a furore. Thus a few can now dictate to the rest of Europe by threat of violence. These few will cause moderate reasonable muslims problems when they try to go about their daily lives simply because of the dissproportionate coverage the press gives them and the ensuing bad feeling it will create.

[marky]

The words "Mountain" and "Molehill" come to mind, but who am i to say, i'm just an Infedel

[altis]

IMHO these images should not have been published and most certainly should not have been re-published to demonstrate freedom of speech.

The conflict between Islam and 'liberalism' (read capitalism) is, IMO, on the brink of a great disaster. The radical elements on both sides (al-Qaeda on theirs and the 'media' on ours) have already started rattling their sabres and are stiring the masses. For goodness sake, stop now before it's too late.

I've travelled enough to know that, at times, there is simply a clash of cultures. No one is right and no one is wrong. There are just different ways of looking at things and we have to work hard to get along.

[marky]

I think there is a HUGE difference between Al-qaeda and the western media, the sun newspaper has never killed 3000 people in one go

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by david.ewles

...as long as I'm not having people knocking on my door saying I should joint them.

I think there's a word or 2 missing there in error was it 'smoke a' and 'with'?

[Frank]

Originally Posted by altis

I've travelled enough to know that, at times, there is simply a clash of cultures. No one is right and no one is wrong. There are just different ways of looking at things and we have to work hard to get along.

There is indeed a clash of cultures, but freedom of speech is a fundamental human right which should not be quashed because some people do not like what the media publishes. If Muslims don't like the western culture of free speech, then they are quite free to return to their own culture. And no that is NOT a racist comment, I happy live side by side with Muslim people in Toronto, one of the most diverse cities in the world, and am happy to continue as long as they do not try and dictate what I can and can't read in my own culture. In fact, I have several Muslim friends who are great people.

Unfortunately and sadly the reaction of a few fundamentalists only serves to strengthen the untrue sterotype portrayed in the cartoons. Wow, some French paper offended me, I am going to take hostage some EU buildings and stand outside firing rifles into the air and threatening to take their staff hostage. How lame.

Again reading on this it seems that muslims are in uproar over a cartoon.

In such an uproar they are attacking innocent christians in the middle east.

Now call me silly, but isnt one of the reasons muslims are feared, loathed or whatever is because of the tendancy to extreme politics and violence?
Not exactly endearing their religion is it to go on the war path burning the flags of just about every country in the world.

The danish gov are right not to censor the press, if they start now they will never be able to stop.
Its time that muslims learned that the rest of the world will NOT pander to their demands that are not in keeping with OUR traditions.

[Frank]

Here's an interesting comment which we can discuss:

“The only way this will be resolved, is if those who are responsible are turned over so they can be punished by Islamic law, so that they can be executed,” said Abu Ibraheem, 26, from Luton. “There are no apologies ….Those responsible would have to be killed.”

and

In Norway, Mullah Krekar, a radical imam living in Norway, was quoted today by the Dagbladet daily as saying: “These drawings are a declaration of war.”

One wonders what exactly the Muslim religion stands for when comments like this are made. Clearly comments like this are not reflective of Muslims as a whole, but it is interesting that radicals like this are not locked up. Isn't it an offence to threaten to kill someone?

[marky]

I'm not racist, but that takes the pee, kill a person for a drawing ?

People, sorry it took so long, but here is what we have to say about CF and the cartoons:

We wish to allow discussion of the cartoons and the political background to the furore surrounding them. However we do not wish to cause gratuitous offence.

Therefore, links to pages that display the cartoons and give some context for them are acceptable. Links direct to .jpg or .gif files are not acceptable. No images of any kind may be incorporated in any posts in this thread.

Please note this is a moderating decision, so usual rules apply: Don't discuss it in the thread, if you wish to say something, please PM one of us.

[marky]

Cool

[altis]

Originally Posted by marky

I think there is a HUGE difference between Al-qaeda and the western media, the sun newspaper has never killed 3000 people in one go

Have you ever watched MTV?

Now imagine you live in a culture (and there are many) where, outside the home, the women are covered from shoulder to toe and you see that sort of stuff beamed at you from the States. Then you see how the kids are hooked up by it and start adopting the styles and language. So if you're a bit older then, unlike in the West, you're not going to see it as some harmless pop channel for kids. You might get fired up and angry.

Then remember how cheap life is in some of these places. Where people lead a hand to mouth existance with little property to their name.

Is it really surprising that they fight back in the way they do?

[marky]

Originally Posted by altis

Have you ever watched MTV?

Now imagine you live in a culture (and there are many) where, outside the home, the women are covered from shoulder to toe and you see that sort of stuff beamed at you from the States. Then you see how the kids are hooked up by it and start adopting the styles and language. So if you're a bit older then, unlike in the West, you're not going to see it as some harmless pop channel for kids. You might get fired up and angry.

Then remember how cheap life is in some of these places. Where people lead a hand to mouth existance with little property to their name.

Is it really surprising that they fight back in the way they do?

yes i do find it suprising, if they cant handle it, bog off back!

We live in a western culture, there is no way we should change just for them.
Like it or lump it.



Ps. congrats on the quiz