Should they be published in the UK?
03-02-2006, 11:21
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
Fair enough, but you've now been allowed to put in a link to a site that states quite clearly that IT has links to sites that have the cartoons.
I think there is a difference, in the case of CF, between debating actually publishing the cartoons, or allowing links to them. It seems as if first-hand links are not allowed, but second hand ones are? That is just silly.
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For goodness sake ...
these are precisely the issues we are in the middle of discussing right now.
Could everyone please stop trying to pick holes in a policy that has not even been written yet. All we're asking you to do is not post links while we reach a decision!
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03-02-2006, 11:39
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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Originally Posted by Russ D
You sure about that?
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From the link above:
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So far, the Guardian newspaper has not published the images, however on the website as the story has developed we have run links to the cartoons within news pieces.
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Originally Posted by Chris T
For goodness sake ...
these are precisely the issues we are in the middle of discussing right now.
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As are we, and we're offering our point of view on the issue.
I was not criticising an as yet undecided policy. Merely pointing out that whether a link links directly or indirectly makes no difference.
Supplying the appropriate Google keywords and then indicating which result is relevent is just the same as posting either the Google link to the results page or even simply to post the link to the target website.
To even debate that issue is being overly sensitive about the issue - debating whether to publish the cartoons themselves would be a completely different matter.
Considering the nature of CF, I would soon decide that is probably not appropriate.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Are muslims offended by any depiction of Mohammed.
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The BBC have a short article that explains it pretty well here.
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Islamic tradition or Hadith, the stories of the words and actions of Muhammad and his Companions, explicitly prohibits images of Allah, Muhammad and all the major prophets of the Christian and Jewish traditions.
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Which makes me wonder why we haven't heard an outcry from them before...
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03-02-2006, 11:46
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
I will tell you one thing, whatever god it is they worship, he dosent like his pilgrims.
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03-02-2006, 11:47
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
It seems quite clear to me that Islam faith and many muslim have proven themselves to be very childish, immature. Unable to handle this trivial issue in an adult manner. No they'd rather surround the EU in Gaza with gunmen and storm embassys.
What Islam has to understand is that Islamic tradition may well ban depictions of the Prophet or Allah. But the whole world is not Islamic and other parts of the world are free to print or say what they like as long as, in this country anyway, they are not inciting racial or religious hatred.
Which these cartoons are not.
You didn't get any of this over the "Divinci Code" some would say that was even more blasphemous that any of this.
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03-02-2006, 11:50
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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You didn't get any of this over the "Divinci Code" some would say that was even more blasphemous that any of this.
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Didn't a nun turn up at the filming and ask the director to stop making it?
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03-02-2006, 11:53
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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Didn't a nun turn up at the filming and ask the director to stop making it?
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Yes, I think one did. But from memory she wasn't packing.
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03-02-2006, 11:55
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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Yes, I think one did. But from memory she wasn't packing.
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Don't get me wrong the book was frowned upon, but nothing like this kind of scale.
I think they just need to get over it and move on.
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03-02-2006, 11:55
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03-02-2006, 11:59
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
Itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s easy you start a new thread for the pictures with a warning so those that have been brainwashed since childhood canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t start with the threats
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03-02-2006, 12:07
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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I will tell you one thing, whatever god it is they worship, he dosent like his pilgrims.
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You mean the ferry sinking.
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03-02-2006, 12:19
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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Originally Posted by STOP
Itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s easy you start a new thread for the pictures with a warning so those that have been brainwashed since childhood canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t start with the threats
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It's not 'easy' at all - and as Chris T has said a few times in this thread, the team will let you know what our collective position is on this.
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03-02-2006, 12:22
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
I say that we should publish them so that our population can see what the fuss is about.
I am amazed at the strength of the muslim reaction to these. They are treating all the citizens of the countries that the papers are published in as though they all had hand in the publishing of the cartoons.
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surely it's just a bunch of extremists who are reacting in a violent way? the majority of the rest are or could be offended but will show their displeasure peacefully.
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03-02-2006, 12:39
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
As both Google and Wikipedia both provide very easy means to view these images, I don't see what all the fuss is about.
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03-02-2006, 12:40
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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Amongst other disasters.. But it think the ferry thing didnt contain any pilgrims.
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03-02-2006, 12:43
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Re: Should they be published in the UK?
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
Amongst other disasters.. But it think the ferry thing didnt contain any pilgrims.
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Originally Posted by bbc
Most of the passengers are Egyptians working in Saudi Arabia although some are thought to be pilgrims returning from Mecca.
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(from the link posted by SWW)
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