*All* ntl Cap Discussion (part 4)

Originally Posted by Griffin

Bittorrent speed also depends on how many seeds you have. Personally i have downloaded the knoppix DVD ISO file 3.11gb at an average speed of 75kb/s on the 2mb line.
I think if everyone was more willing to allow things to take a bit of time to download then you wouldn't see people moaning about 10mb having caps.
Myself i find the 2mb line is more than adequate for speed, with the added bonus of no cap!

If you look at my services you will see i am a 2 meg user as well and i am willing to download my stuff over night so it does not affect other users. I honestly think that the isp's will start to traffic shape soon to reduce the pressure on there networks. And the way it will be done will not be affected by changing ports , This will then make p2p software even less of a problem to the Isp.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by Bill C

If you look at my services you will see i am a 2 meg user as well and i am willing to download my stuff over night so it does not affect other users. I honestly think that the isp's will start to traffic shape soon to reduce the pressure on there networks. And the way it will be done will not be affected by changing ports , This will then make p2p software even less of a problem to the Isp.

I agree with you there, traffic shaping appears to be a popular choice for isp's. Not neccessarily a sound one though with the encrypted p2p solutions turning up now, these apparently make the detection of whats being transfered indeterminable from other traffic.

[LenMackin]

Hmmm looks like its back to 2mb for me as I cant stand the idea of silly limits.

Let's all keep a copy of NTL's advertising blurb, quote " a massive 75gb download limit" and see what that look like in December 2006 when IPTV, new Google and Microsoft services, web and video blogs and lots more stuff is developed to entice us to download lots more 'legal' content.

It will change because it will have to.

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oops i mean pod and video casts lol!

Everything changes over time, nothing new there.

FYI, We expect the trials of usage monitoring to start next week - with a roll out to start around April/May.

The current expectation is that anyone exceeding their cap (e.g. 75G) will have their speed cut to 128K (up & down) until the end of the usage month.

As previously stated, ntl's policy on the bad boys is that they stay stuck on 512K, allthough we understand the frontline is not necessarily enforcing this as they should .....

Originally Posted by Paul M

FYI, We expect the trials of usage monitoring to start next week - with a roll out to start around April/May.

The current expectation is that anyone exceeding their cap (e.g. 75G) will have their speed cut to 128K (up & down) until the end of the usage month.

As previously stated, ntl's policy on the bad boys is that they stay stuck on 512K, although we understand the frontline is not necessarily enforcing this as they should .....

To be honest it might be needed to keep the 1 or 2 Billy downloaders on 10 meg from wrecking it for all. Lets face it someone on the Newsgroups who wanted to take the **** could do over a terabyte a month. Now we all know that there are those that must download the internet because they can.

This was not aimed at any one here

[Rone]

I think the way its running at the moment, you would be doing well to exceed anything.

Originally Posted by Rone

I think the way its running at the moment, you would be doing well to exceed anything.

You may have a point there looking at the amount of people not getting anywhere near 10 meg.

[LenMackin]

Originally Posted by Paul M
FYI, We expect the trials of usage monitoring to start next week - with a roll out to start around April/May.

And you are......?

Originally Posted by Paul M

FYI, We expect the trials of usage monitoring to start next week - with a roll out to start around April/May.

The current expectation is that anyone exceeding their cap (e.g. 75G) will have their speed cut to 128K (up & down) until the end of the usage month.

As previously stated, ntl's policy on the bad boys is that they stay stuck on 512K, allthough we understand the frontline is not necessarily enforcing this as they should .....

Originally Posted by LenMackin

And you are......?

Paul M is one of the admin from this site who will have been sent information from NTL maybe ?

Originally Posted by LenMackin

And you are......?

A God. or maybe what Bill said

Originally Posted by Paul M

A God. or maybe what Bill said

[Chrysalis]

hmm interesting, I will be honest and did exceed the 75 gig in my 1st month, but it wasnt a usual month for me and I spect to be below it this month. I didnt exceed it by a huge amount tho (was under 150gig) I think if they throttle down to 128kbit for remainder of month it is fair, I wonder with the 24.99 tier it been possible to download almost 9 times as much, if 75gig is a reasonable figure considering that rival isp's offer much higher limits for a comparable price.

Also with these trial's is there any news on a meter been made useable by customer's? as I think ntl are going about it backwards, they should be providing the tools first to monitor usage followed by the enforcement.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Also with these trial's is there any news on a meter been made useable by customer's? as I think ntl are going about it backwards, they should be providing the tools first to monitor usage followed by the enforcement.

Sorry but the way i read his post is that the trials of usage monitoring for customers is about to start. IE the ability to see what you have used.

I am sure Paul can clear little point up for us.

[mcmanic]

still waiting for my 2meg unlimited announcement letter to come and for NTL to clear up their meaning on unlimited as their webpage still shows 30gig