27-12-2005, 03:08
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
Steady on there cowboy
There is a stigma attached to SKODA granted, but that stigma was used to emphasise a point, not to degrade SKODA or SKODA owners. So how about I put it another way then: SMART CAR or SKODA
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27-12-2005, 12:21
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
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Originally Posted by Jim galbally
as jack points out, USB1.1 is SLOWER than 10mbit/sec so seems a bit silly to use it 
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Oh dear, didn't check first did we? USB 1.1 is 12 mbps, USB 2.0 is 480 mbps.
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27-12-2005, 16:30
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
wasn't their a usb speed at 4mbit?
i don't fully remember, but didn't it used to be:
usb = 4mbit
fast usb = 12mbit
usb2 = 480mb
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27-12-2005, 18:13
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
Well you will get much reduced speeds on USB a lot of the time as the 12MBit is shared across the hub
Transfer speed
USB supports three data rates. - A Low Speed rate of 1.5 Mbit/s (183 KiB/s) that is mostly used for Human Interface Devices (HID) such as keyboards, mice and joysticks.
- A Full Speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (1.4 MiB/s). Full Speed was the fastest rate before the USB 2.0 specification and many devices fall back to Full Speed. Full Speed devices divide the USB bandwidth between them in a first-come first-served basis and it is not uncommon to run out of bandwidth with several isochronous devices. All USB Hubs support Full Speed.
- A Hi-Speed rate of 480 Mbit/s (57 MiB/s). (Commonly called USB 2.0)
(Taken frm www.wikipedia.com)
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27-12-2005, 18:24
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
Also, don't forget about Gigabit Ethernet! 1000mbit transfer rate wee wees over any USB device
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27-12-2005, 18:37
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
this thread has gone way off topic
so therefore i shall see your gigabit, and raise you an oc-48 (2.5gbit)
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27-12-2005, 22:48
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
You don't get oc-48 built into common motherboards.
Gigabit Ethernet is standard on some motherboards, but really a 10/100mbit Ethernet Card is quite sufficient to handle a 10mb broadband connection.
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28-12-2005, 08:45
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
yeah, for the sake of a £5 ethernet card, don't bother with usb, it's just not worth the hastle. especially on a machine with <1ghz and <128mb if you're wanting 10mbit
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28-12-2005, 16:06
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
hokkers, i know the BUS speed of USB
there's a very good reason why you can't get that over a single connection... havea think about it and you'll get it
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30-12-2005, 14:14
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Portsmouth
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
I have a Belkin Wireless Router(802.11b I think) and a USB (1.1) Wireless Access Point in my PC.
Would the above make it pointless upgrading to NTL's 10meg BB, or would I be OK? If it's pointless, what (minimum) kit should I look to get? BTW my PC has a 10/100 Ethernet card.
Thanks.
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30-12-2005, 14:18
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
Depending on the router, you may be able to get the full speed through a wired connection to the PC. You will NOT be able to get the full 10 Meg through a wireless connection with any B class router.
Regarding routers, a lot of people (myself included) use and can recommend the Linksys WRT54G range of routers. These (AFAIK) should handle 10 Meg easily.
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30-12-2005, 14:41
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Re: USB or ETHERNET
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
Depending on the router, you may be able to get the full speed through a wired connection to the PC. You will NOT be able to get the full 10 Meg through a wireless connection with any B class router.
Regarding routers, a lot of people (myself included) use and can recommend the Linksys WRT54G range of routers. These (AFAIK) should handle 10 Meg easily.
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One thing to be aware of is that the latest V5 WRT54G routers use a different operating system to earlier versions, this means that the use of 'third party' firmware is no longer possible.
- a WRT54GL model will apparently be available, based on Linux, which can use third party firmware, but will be more expensive.
- in the meantime the consensus seems to be that the 'new' V5 model of this router has less memory, a different OS & performance issues.
Advice seems to be hang out for the 'L' model, or try to get a version 4
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/70386
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