08-12-2005, 14:44
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Re: Space Cadets
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Did it ever occur to you that demanding the 'victim' of a practical joke be 'big enough' and have a 'sense of humour' are the usual bully tactics of people who pull pranks on others and then insist it's the victim's fault if they don't appreciate the joke?
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I'm sure they have been picked not only for their suggestability but also for other factors as well.
If you had watched the show you would have seen them (the victims) discussing space travel and the costs involved. Surley they should have realised that channel 4 would not stump up 100 million to rake 5 people to space ;but they did not.
This will just be one of a long list of things we'll disagree on.
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08-12-2005, 14:48
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Re: Space Cadets
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I'm sure they have been picked not only for their suggestability but also for other factors as well.
If you had watched the show you would have seen them (the victims) discussing space travel and the costs involved. Surley they should have realised that channel 4 would not stump up 100 million to rake 5 people to space ;but they did not.
This will just be one of a long list of things we'll disagree on.
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I'm happy for us to disagree on any number of things. It makes forums much more interesting.
I do accept that the 'contestants' on this show have been picked because they are gullible and stupid (you would have to be, to believe what they're being told). I just don't think it's an excuse for what C4 is doing to them.
Still, on with the show I suppose.
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08-12-2005, 14:50
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Re: Space Cadets
I didn't watch it so I can't really comment, but does anyone know whether the battery of preshow tests included intelligence. Heard someone saying on the radio that if the contestants had any sense they would know that a flight to Moscow takes longer than 4 hours, that Moscow is currently -3 degrees rather than the 'balmy' 8 in Suffolk, and that the signs at a Russian airfield would not all look brand new and not be written in both Russian and English. Seems like a fair comment to me  .
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08-12-2005, 14:56
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Re: Space Cadets
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..... and that the signs at a Russian airfield would not all look brand new and not be written in both Russian and English. Seems like a fair comment to me  .
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Maybe political correctness is spreading to russian airbases.......
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08-12-2005, 15:00
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Re: Space Cadets
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I didn't watch it so I can't really comment, but does anyone know whether the battery of preshow tests included intelligence.
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Often, the more intelligent are actually easier to con.
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Heard someone saying on the radio that if the contestants had any sense they would know that a flight to Moscow takes longer than 4 hours, that Moscow is currently -3 degrees rather than the 'balmy' 8 in Suffolk, and that the signs at a Russian airfield would not all look brand new and not be written in both Russian and English. Seems like a fair comment to me  .
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As with most deceptions, as long as you start with something entirely believable, then once people have bought into it you can get more ridiculous as time goes on and they just won't notice.
How many people know the flying time to Moscow? Not many.
As for the temperature - yeah I'd say that could be a giveaway, but I'm sure they'll just blame it on global warming or an unseasonally warm winter. Again, I doubt few of them have any idea what the typical weather is in whatever part of Russia they're supposed to be in. (Did they say Moscow? Russia is HUGE and I'm sure there's parts of it where it is even warmer than in Suffolk.)
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08-12-2005, 15:03
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I wonder just how many of the "winners" of this show will say "I knew it was a wind-up" when its all finished? Wouldnt that defeat the whole purpose of the show?
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08-12-2005, 15:07
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I started to watch this last night, but after about 5 minutes of watching the incredibly irritating Johnny Vaughan and the somewhat empty-headed guinea pigs, (if thats what they really are?) it was like the gullible watching the guilible... I shall watch no more of this cheap entertainment thats geared towards the masses of no lifers outthere! Shame on you for taking enjoyment out of other peoples gullibility. But maybe they will have the last laugh! wink wink..
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08-12-2005, 15:26
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Re: Space Cadets
In one of the local rags up here the Scottish girl looks like she is getting fired when she gets back seeing she walked out of her job as she was so sure that this would make her a star.
I can see both points of the argument. It does appear to be pretty cruel to pick on these people as they are easily led and can be manipulated.
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08-12-2005, 15:41
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Re: Space Cadets
One thing I think they should have done is make the signs they put up look quite old to fit in with the old air base. They look pretty new. Plus they said they were put up with blue-tak......hardly the stuff you would use for an airbase.
Johnny Vaughn is OK as apresenter but his jokes dont amuse me.
Oh, for those that dont already know, the secret location in Ipswitch is the Bentwaters airbase. More info about it HERE
Rumour has it they are planning an asteroid storm.
What do you think would be the best way to come clean to them ?
Maybe santa coming in to the shuttle or something.
Or have some aliens storm the shuttle.
I want their earth simulator PC to crash and display a BSOD.
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08-12-2005, 15:51
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Re: Space Cadets
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What do you think would be the best way to come clean to them ?
Maybe santa coming in to the shuttle or something.
Or have some aliens storm the shuttle.
I want their earth simulator PC to crash and display a BSOD.
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Maybe the side of the shuttle comes off to reveal a production team drinking tea
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08-12-2005, 15:58
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Re: Space Cadets
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What do you think would be the best way to come clean to them ?
Maybe santa coming in to the shuttle or something.
Or have some aliens storm the shuttle.
I want their earth simulator PC to crash and display a BSOD.
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Maybe the side of the shuttle comes off to reveal a production team drinking tea 
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Send Johnny Vaughan out to do a space walk, with a squeegee to clean the windscreen of the spacecraft
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08-12-2005, 16:00
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Re: Space Cadets
Surely they're not going to try and convince them they really ARE in space? I'd assumed it would stop before getting that far.
They can't possibly be convinced they made it up there - I mean they must know there's no gravity right?
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08-12-2005, 16:03
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Re: Space Cadets
I think I read somewhere the idea would be they were in a low level orbit, so there would be some gravity.
Anyway all those dodgy sci fi movies that feature spacestations have gravity, so why not the Space Cadets
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08-12-2005, 16:06
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I think I read somewhere the idea would be they were in a low level orbit, so there would be some gravity.
Anyway all those dodgy sci fi movies that feature spacestations have gravity, so why not the Space Cadets 
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08-12-2005, 16:08
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Re: Space Cadets
Maybe the point is to make it somewhat relistic, but have big flaws like the lack of G-Force, no weightlessness etc to see just how far they can push it.
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