*ALL* ntl 10Mb Discussion (Part 3)

[MistaP]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Faster ? - only if you live close enough to the exchange, and the exchange actually provides ADSL2 in the first place.

Cheaper ? - Possibly per month, but then you need to pay for a BT line, and installation.

more organised ? - not necessarily - check out the hell sites for most adsl providers.

I would advise people to think very carefully before spitting their dummies out - the grass is not always greener ......

Faster? Yes, upto 24Meg, 1.3Meg up
Cheaper? Yes , £24 compared to £37.99, or £34.99 later. Also UNLIMITED, No cap!
more organised? Yes, or switched providers quicker!
Even with BT line rental and installation, it works out cheaper for the year AND you can have the same phone (unlimited 24) and a faster net connex.

Do you work for NTL? If you do you'll want to keep your customers. I don't, I've just weight up whats available.

[IanUK]

I'm sure some people said in testing that had reached those speeds occasionally, I just had a quick look but these threads are too large for any searching.

[johnnygal]

IanUK,



Fingers crossed then.

Cheers

Originally Posted by david.ewles

The upgrade for 1&2Mb customers will take place next year and be finshed nby Dec 2006

I realise that, but for people on ntl's 1 & 2 Mb service who don't visit these kind of forums, the only info they are getting from the ntlworld website is that they can only get 3Mb by upgrading to the highest tier.

There is no mention that they will be getting a free upgrade next year.


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[bordi]

My Terrayon TJ210 modem is only reaching around 5.5mbps...looks like I'll have to find another modem

[Chrysalis]

LLU adsl is cheaper
BT ipstream adsl works out more expensive in most cases.

The argument swings tho for those who have managed to get their ntl service without a phoneline.

Personally the price isnt the most important aspect of my service, I dont mind paying a bit more for better service.

[IanUK]

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=37975

Paul M says they will do around 7mb
Either they changed their mind or its up to 7 mb with the 10mb config ?

Would be handy to know, I'd rather have up to 7mb and not pay the ripoff £50...

Originally Posted by IanUK

Paul M says they will do around 7mb
Either they changed their mind or its up to 7 mb with the 10mb config ?

They will have the 10M config - but physically won't go that fast (just like the older CM's).

[IanUK]

They will have the 10M config - but physically won't go that fast (just like the older CM's).

Thanks Paul, do you know if there was any downsides noticed during testing (unstable tv or anything) ?

What happens if I get Broadband through a set-top box?

Download speeds are dependent upon equipment capability. Currently the set-top box is capable of supporting speeds up to 5Mb, so that is the maximum speed you would receive after an upgrade to the new 10Mb service.


Err...no. That's not correct is it?

I know people who are still using the Pace box for their broadband, which are only capable of 1Meg. Now the swap from Pace to Samsung was free, so would Pace owners still be expected to pay the £50 charge for a modem?

I see from this page, that ntl are trying to put you off of upgrading to a new modem! http://www.ntlworld.com/toolsservices/forms/stb/

"In general we would not recommend an upgrade unless you are sure that you need these very high speeds, and that your PC is optimised to make use of 10Mb."

They then go on to list a load of reasons as to why you may not get the full 10 Megs anyway. They seem to want the best of both worlds.

[Chrysalis]

I guess unless things improve contention wise you wont see a great deal of difference if you upgrade the modem anyway, as long as the old one is stable and doesnt drop out like the 120s it maybe best to just keep the samsung.

[tblanks]

Originally Posted by johnnygal

IanUK,

Are you sure? I have been following this thread for a good while and never recall any STB owners reporting more than 3MB ?? (I have been looking out for such posts since I too have the Samsung STB :-)

I'm sure, I have a samsung STB and on Saturday morning I checked my MRTG log, between 3am and 6am I was getting upto 9.6 Meg.

I posted the MRTG graph to this forum earlier, but here it is again...

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Later on Saturday afternoon I also got 8.3 meg but it was only for an hour, since then I have had nothing higher than 2.0 meg (I have been logging my connecton for the past eight months, never had a blip like this before).

I can only assume they were testing during this period, but it clearly shows that my Samsung is cable of high speed, guess they have other factors for limiting the speed.

I'm refusing to pay £50 for an upgrade, NTL get two STB's, 3 Meg Internet and phone line off me, I asked for a seperate modem when they upgraded my PACE stb to the Samsung but they told me they had none in stock! The Samsung has been nothing but problems especially when being used with my Tivo (remote IR codes don't always work), I'm going to call later today to insist on a free modem upgrade (and a return to the PACE box)

I don't think I've been upgraded fully yet (if I have I've seen no change), will be happy to post another graph if and when I'm upgraded.

Tim

[fire]

Maybe if you reeboot your Samsung you will have the new speed.

[tblanks]

Originally Posted by fire

Maybe if you reeboot your Samsung you will have the new speed.

At work at the moment, will do tonight, but I rebooted last night and there wasn't a change. Fingers crossed.

Regards,

Tim.

Originally Posted by bordi

My Terrayon TJ210 modem is only reaching around 5.5mbps...looks like I'll have to find another modem

Me too, just been on the phone to cs they are sending me a new one out today.