Only getting 310KB from 10MB connection? - Page 2

AbyssUnderground · 16-11-2005, 21:33

There are many reasons why people do it:

1. You can install anything you want in regard to scripting languages (ntl webspace doesnt provide php or anything like that).
2. If it goes wrong its your fault, not ntl's or you hosting ISP's.
3. It is easier to update by simply sending your site via a network drive rather than waiting forever to transfer it by ftp.
4. You gather experience from running a webserver.
5. Resources are dedicated so it is a lot faster than shared hosting.

There are many more reasons but I cannot think of them all.

The only downside is that it costs roughly 34p a day for me to run my webserver, that amounts to about ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£120 a year. Its a lot more than paid hosting but it makes up for itself with the ability to have whatever you like on it.

My website is designed for helping people set up servers on their internet connection (not just on ntl, on any isp).

If you want to take a look its www.abyssunderground.co.uk.

Also, I do not use Apache. I use a much better server called Abyss Web Server. Ill explain more if people want to know.

Chrysalis · 17-11-2005, 02:39

I can argue your point #5, hosting on a shared unix server on a 100mbit port will be a lot faster then on someone's windows xp box on a residental cable line. Of course it probably feels faster when you browsing over your lan

Chrysalis · 17-11-2005, 02:47

your site is down by the way

AbyssUnderground · 17-11-2005, 06:44

I know

NTL was performing maintenance during the night and it was offline for the most part. It is back online now.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I can argue your point #5, hosting on a shared unix server on a 100mbit port will be a lot faster then on someone's windows xp box on a residental cable line. Of course it probably feels faster when you browsing over your lan

Im not talking about the upload speed being 100Mbps, im on about dedicated cpu, which these days is what you want on a web server for all of the php and mysql scripts that need to be performed.

Actually, I have limited the speed on the lan to my upload speed so it is in fact the same. However my site runs quickly anyway because it was designed like that.

digitalistic · 17-11-2005, 08:01

The point is that I am not even getting the guarenteed 3MB service that I have subscribed for, let alone 10MB. I phoned CS but she fobbed me off with me probably having 'spyware', putting aside the fact that DU Meter showed no incoming/outgoing traffic during idle....

yer nice one · 17-11-2005, 16:54

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Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

Also, I do not use Apache. I use a much better server called Abyss Web Server. Ill explain more if people want to know.

Apache is known in the industry as being the best web server in the world,

Im not sure how many people run your version of webserver. What I do know is that 10 times more users, use apache, me being one

I install many webservers on clients systems over SSH, I never install anything but Apache

AbyssUnderground · 17-11-2005, 17:14

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Originally Posted by yer nice one

Apache is known in the industry as being the best web server in the world,

Im not sure how many people run your version of webserver. What I do know is that 10 times more users, use apache, me being one

I install many webservers on clients systems over SSH, I never install anything but Apache

Apache has actually been proven to be slower than the webserver software that I use. Our community and a website called serverwatch tested the software and found that apache was about 35% slower than abyss web server.

Apache has no GUI and a very high memory usage and does not nativly support any scripting languages. Abyss Web Server has a very easy to use GUI and supports AHTML, PHP, Perl, Python, Ruby and many other scripting languages.

Apache is also unstable, and I could quite easily take down any server running apache with a simple DDoS attack. Abyss Web Server has features to help prevent this happening. I know this because I had a friend DDoS msn.com and he succeeded quite easily. When he DDoSed me, he failed.

You should try the server and see what you think. You will be impressed.

Graham M · 17-11-2005, 17:33

Smells like something quite smelly produced by male cows.

AbyssUnderground · 17-11-2005, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Zeph

Smells like something quite smelly produced by male cows.

So do you but you don't hear me complaining

Like I said, if you dont beleive me you should try it.

www.aprelium.com

Oh, and they have a support forum that actually does help you too, unlike apache which seems practically non-existant.

Graham M · 17-11-2005, 17:42

Thats because Apache is usually run and maintained by professionals in their field and not some Geek in his bedroom

AbyssUnderground · 17-11-2005, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Zeph

Thats because Apache is usually run and maintained by professionals in their field and not some Geek in his bedroom

There are many thousands of professionals running this software on their servers. You try and keep apache up and running with no faults for as long as you can and it will be beaten by abyss.

Anyway, why are we arguing? This is supposed to be a discussion!

There is no doubt about it, apache will probably remain the most widely used server in the world but those who prefer stability tend to look elsewhere.

King Of Fools · 17-11-2005, 17:58

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Originally Posted by digitalistic

The point is that I am not even getting the guarenteed 3MB service that I have subscribed for, let alone 10MB. I phoned CS but she fobbed me off with me probably having 'spyware', putting aside the fact that DU Meter showed no incoming/outgoing traffic during idle....

You are not far of the 375KB available from a 3Mb connection.

patrickp · 17-11-2005, 18:36

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Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

Can people in Middlesbrough/Teesside get 10Mbps yet? If so how?

Im on 2Mbps at the moment.

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Originally Posted by monkey2468

Use the speed upgrade link on the ntlworld.com site. You will pay ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£37.99 though.

I think what you're just referring to is the 2Mb to 3Mb upgrade, monkey2468. And that will be ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£37.99 a month, not a one-off payment.

Unless, of course, you're obliquely referring to ntl's intention of upgrading 3Mb users to 10Mb by the end of the year.

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Originally Posted by Zeph

Thats because Apache is usually run and maintained by professionals in their field and not some Geek in his bedroom

There are many thousands of professionals running this software on their servers. You try and keep apache up and running with no faults for as long as you can and it will be beaten by abyss.

Anyway, why are we arguing? This is supposed to be a discussion!

There is no doubt about it, apache will probably remain the most widely used server in the world but those who prefer stability tend to look elsewhere.

Well said, AbyssUnderground. I have no idea how valid your claim is, but at least you expressed it clearly and rationally, and insulting you is certainly not a particularly effective or even acceptable way of of disputing it.

patrickp · 17-11-2005, 18:46

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Originally Posted by digitalistic

The point is that I am not even getting the guarenteed 3MB service that I have subscribed for, let alone 10MB. I phoned CS but she fobbed me off with me probably having 'spyware', putting aside the fact that DU Meter showed no incoming/outgoing traffic during idle....

You are not far of the 375KB available from a 3Mb connection.

Absolutely, King Of Fools. digitalistic, you have a 3Mb, not a 3MB connection. Try Robin Walker's speed test.

simpsonsFAN · 17-11-2005, 18:49

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Originally Posted by patrickp

I think what you're just referring to is the 2Mb to 3Mb upgrade, monkey2468. Unless, of course, you're obliquely referring to ntl's intention of upgrading 3Mb users to 10Mb by the end of the year.

Nope. Hes refering to the fact that current 2Mbps customours can upgrade themself to 10Mbps at the same price as us on the current 3Mbps service on the teirmigration webpage.

-Chris