*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion (Part 3)

[the_beast666]

Originally Posted by nemesis01

just for those who still think ntl won't cap, when i was on pc earlier today my connection dropped out for a few seconds, when it came back on it was on the reduced speed so can only download now at about 60k, still at least i don't have to worry about caps for now.

so from that i assume that you have been hammering your connection then ?????

[Pudders]

Originally Posted by nemesis01

just for those who still think ntl won't cap, when i was on pc earlier today my connection dropped out for a few seconds, when it came back on it was on the reduced speed so can only download now at about 60k, still at least i don't have to worry about caps for now.

Same here for me. Yesterday mine dropped to a steady 60k.

Has anyone rung NTL to ask em how long we have to stay on this new package for or can we just ring em up and ask to go back to a 2/3 meg connection??

Pudders

[captainwebb]

How to get a FREE upgrade from ntl.
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1. Be a subscriber to 300kb, like I have been for a long time. Accept that this gives you a 30GB monthly cap, which will probably suffice. Pay £17.99.

2. Take the "upgrade" to 1mb, and accept the cap at 3GB, which will probably NOT suffice. Pay £17.99.

3. Bust the hell out of the 3GB cap.

4. Get downgraded by ntl to 512kb with no cap. Pay £17.99.

5. Finish up with higher speed and unlimited capacity, for the same price as you started.

Anyone see a hole in the logic?

Anyone explain why ntl doesn't just offer 512kb uncapped as the base product?

Anyone explain why ntl doesn't answer the questions I just asked?

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by captainwebb

How to get a FREE upgrade from ntl.
===========================

1. Be a subscriber to 300kb, like I have been for a long time. Accept that this gives you a 30GB monthly cap, which will probably suffice. Pay £17.99.

2. Take the "upgrade" to 1mb, and accept the cap at 3GB, which will probably NOT suffice. Pay £17.99.

3. Bust the hell out of the 3GB cap.

4. Get downgraded by ntl to 512kb with no cap. Pay £17.99.

5. Finish up with higher speed and unlimited capacity, for the same price as you started.

Anyone see a hole in the logic?

Anyone explain why ntl doesn't just offer 512kb uncapped as the base product?

Anyone explain why ntl doesn't answer the questions I just asked?

Some people have a need for speed, rather than a need to download anything they can get their greedy little hands on.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Some people have a need for speed, rather than a need to download anything they can get their greedy little hands on.

"I feel the need..................the need............for speeeeeeeeeeeeed!"

[captainwebb]

I have no great need for speed, nor am I among those who download "anything they can get their greedy little hands on."

I chose to opt out of the "upgrade" to 1mb, since I might on occasions go above a 3GB monthly cap. People send me pictures for a couple of organisations I'm involved with, and I can't predict how many there will be.

ntl couldn't/wouldn't tell me how I would be "punished" if I did exceed the cap. It now emerges that the "punishment" is 70% better in terms of speed than the service I'm paying for, and there's no cap ...

I can't get any explanation of this anomaly from ntl, nor can I subscribe to the "punishment" regime.

I hoped a message on this forum might provoke a sensible explanation from ntl. I'm still hoping ...

[Safeman]

hi am on 3mb Nthell. i dont know much about the cap situation. but i have just gone over 30gig for the 1st time will i get a letter or ?????

[jtwn]

No. It appears the trigger is 150gb.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by jtwn

No. It appears the trigger is 150gb.

Where did you get that piece of information from as that seems very high considering the cap is quoted at 30gb. With most things you get a percentage tolerance of say 10% or in genrous circumstances 20 - 25% allowing for the fact that 3mb will eventually be 10mb with 75gb cap then 150gb sounds a very optomistic figure

Originally Posted by Griffin

Where did you get that piece of information from as that seems very high considering the cap is quoted at 30gb. With most things you get a percentage tolerance of say 10% or in genrous circumstances 20 - 25% allowing for the fact that 3mb will eventually be 10mb with 75gb cap then 150gb sounds a very optomistic figure

Posts by others on this forum who have had a warning letter seem to support the assumption that NTL is using 150Gb as the trigger point. That's not to say they won't get round to less serious offenders in time though. Maybe they are just targeting the serious bandwidth hogs and warez monkeys for now.

[jrhnewark]

Originally Posted by Chris T

Posts by others on this forum who have had a warning letter seem to support the assumption that NTL is using 150Gb as the trigger point. That's not to say they won't get round to less serious offenders in time though. Maybe they are just targeting the serious bandwidth hogs and warez monkeys for now.

I'd certainly agree with that. We haven't had the 'test case' (so to speak) of anyone on 1Mbps with a 3GB cap who's been knocked onto 512kbps, though, as of yet.

Where the trigger lays there, I don't know. Although it would appear - at the moment - that those of us who use 30GB a month on 1Mbps have nothing to worry about.

[mcmanic]

its dependent on area where you live i think also, mine was 156gig on warning letter then on final letter they congratulated me on lowering my usage to 122gig from 156gigs, YET i have seen plenty who have downloaded more for the warning letter and less on the final notice downgrade letter, as low as 56gigs.

So to me NTL are saying 122gigs is fine here and its within the acceptable fair usage policy BUT the letter also states that they will continue to monitor my usage, but hell i don't care the letter says i was OK using THAT amount

[Chrysalis]

mcmanic yeah thats unusual, I hope that doesnt become the case as the level should be the same in every area.

I break 30 gig almost every month but am below 100gig, I have recieved no letter at all.

[Safeman]

mines @ 32gig @ the moment with just over week to go till the end of the month

[jrhnewark]

I'm only on 17GB at the moment, so on course for around 27GB this month.