21-09-2005, 13:22
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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Why is it happening on a few websites though, if its meant to be down to Valve? bit strange if you ask me
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Only steampowered.com is down to Valve, the others are either faulty proxies or sites banning users, and accidentally banning entire sections of the country from their site because of the proxies, here in Poplar land I often get MSN Groups and Yahoo giving me blank pages, many times I go to a new site and it comes in blank so I think its down, but then using another proxy brings it in - they are pretty awful here
If you live where you have good proxies, then you have a good service and don't see all these problems, be thankful !
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21-09-2005, 18:40
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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Originally Posted by ikthius
I experience it every so often, mainly with yahoo profile pages.
but then again, I just change proxies.
so none of the above poll options fit.
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Yes, I am experiencing issues accessing certain websites (please post in the thread with detail!)
select that if you have to change proxy, basically you have an issue which forces you to use a workaround.
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21-09-2005, 22:45
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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Originally Posted by Simcut
I dont use proxies but I still have problems accessing Steampowered.com
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If you're on ntl then you are using proxies, just automatically not manually.
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21-09-2005, 23:32
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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Originally Posted by IanUK
Wrong, if we had no proxies then Valve blocking bad users (which is presumably why they have blocked the ip ranges) would not affect everyone, only a small subnet of dial up addresses, whereas it seems they have blocked thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of users.
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Of course it's not wrong, you can't deny facts just because they don't suit your agenda. If Valve didn't block them then there wouldn't be a problem - fact. ntl proxies pass on the original client ip for purposes such as this. If we can extract and use it (which we do) then so can they.
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22-09-2005, 00:21
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
OK - I can't get to www.wallwatcher.com on the 'manc-cache-7.server.ntli.net' proxy. Anybody else?
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22-09-2005, 12:41
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
So we've established that its not an issue with Valve and is instead an NTL issue, correct?
can you list me what proxies have been affected.
Thanks!
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22-09-2005, 15:43
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
I always have problems with www.kodak.com - specially getting the updated software and specific camera pages.
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22-09-2005, 15:49
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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Originally Posted by Simcut
So we've established that its not an issue with Valve and is instead an NTL issue, correct? 
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I thought we had established that Valve were blocking the ntl proxies from accessing their network?
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22-09-2005, 16:04
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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Originally Posted by Simcut
So we've established that its not an issue with Valve and is instead an NTL issue, correct?
can you list me what proxies have been affected.
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Sorry how do you come to that . I am now confused  . I was under the impression that Valve are blocking some of the ntl proxies.
Even when they could do this.
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Of course it's not wrong, you can't deny facts just because they don't suit your agenda. If Valve didn't block them then there wouldn't be a problem - fact. ntl proxies pass on the original client ip for purposes such as this. If we can extract and use it (which we do) then so can they.
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So again i am totaly confused
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22-09-2005, 21:36
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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Wrong, if we had no proxies then Valve blocking bad users (which is presumably why they have blocked the ip ranges) would not affect everyone, only a small subnet of dial up addresses, whereas it seems they have blocked thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of users.
Of course it's not wrong, you can't deny facts just because they don't suit your agenda. If Valve didn't block them then there wouldn't be a problem - fact. ntl proxies pass on the original client ip for purposes such as this. If we can extract and use it (which we do) then so can they.
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Yes it is wrong, especially in the light of todays announcement on steampowered.com - answering the now 3 page long thread of NTL users that cannot access the site - Valve were asked and have confirmed that they are NOT blocking NTL users.
Its the proxies .......again.
Shacknews.com is also still dead on Poplar proxies
Betanews is partyl fixed it seems, it comes in but then choosing a file or story causes the next page to hang because it seems the proxy cannot handle the ad server and hangs the page - richards-realm, an adult site, has a submit script that does not work with Poplar proxies - it just hangs, I could go on (and frequently do !)
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ntl proxies pass on the original client ip for purposes such as this. If we can extract and use it (which we do) then so can they.
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Of no interest or use to me, I'm an end user, I don't want to have to rely on what individual web masters may or may not do to enable me to see the site, NTL proxies are the ONLY ones I'm aware of that have this problem with so many sites, other ISP users do not have to rely on this to see sites - AOL use proxies, and so far in over 3 years of using them I have yet to find a site that doesn't work at full speed using them.
There are so many proxy threads on this site alone, you even have a dedicated section, they don't work properly.
I just tried kodak.com as mentioned above - and sure enough the site comes in, but when requesting the support/drivers page it hangs (works fine on AOL)
Another one to add to the list..
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22-09-2005, 21:39
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
I am not having any such problems but weather that is because i was behind a proxy before all this or not i don't know
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23-09-2005, 02:54
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
cant go into as much technical detail, dont have the vocab! but for about 3 months I could not view this site, changes ny proxies and hey presto same as a wireless connection and a couple of other sites, really annoying especially as i dont understand it ... just copy and paste a new address.
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23-09-2005, 03:41
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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23-09-2005, 16:23
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
I am having problems with the following sites:
www.hotmail.com - I cannot log in and check my emails although it accepts my user name and password, it just sits there for ever. Outlook does not allow me to get my emails either.
love.lycos.co.uk - the same problem as hotmail.com
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23-09-2005, 17:04
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Re: Who's affected by the NTL proxy issue with some websites not loading?
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Originally Posted by simbr
I thought we had established that Valve were blocking the ntl proxies from accessing their network?
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they not specifically blocking ntl.
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