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[Nugget]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Have you seen the info I posted Nugget?
Carry on guessing, but as I stated earlier, I could see no reason for someone to type up what was posted just because they have an " axe to grind ".
Even if I emailed " legalhook@ntl " they';re not going to say yes or no are they?

I'm not guessing anything. As I'm not an ntl customer (and haven't been for a while), I'm not really bothered either way.

However, you can't expect people to just blindly accept your assertions without giving a proper source.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Nugget

I'm not guessing anything. As I'm not an ntl customer (and haven't been for a while), I'm not really bothered either way.

However, you can't expect people to just blindly accept your assertions without giving a proper source.

Yeah, but he/she does....

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Have you seen the info I posted Nugget?
Carry on guessing, but as I stated earlier, I could see no reason for someone to type up what was posted just because they have an " axe to grind ".
Even if I emailed " legalhook@ntl " they';re not going to say yes or no are they?

No, he probably hasn't, but I have. You posted something that was blatantly an internal document, which YOU had no permission to place in the public Domain.

That document may have been current, or years old, we have no idea, and nor do you. I suggest you back away from this thread.

Originally Posted by Nugget

I'm not guessing anything. As I'm not an ntl customer (and haven't been for a while), I'm not really bothered either way.

However, you can't expect people to just blindly accept your assertions without giving a proper source.

Well I would have thought if I was going to comment on something I would read up on it first.

To the person who wrote "unless you tell people who the source is, they won't give a flying fig."

I dont give a " flying fig " what you think.

[Nemesis]

Thin Ice ....

[Nugget]

I don't expect anyone to give a 'flying fig' what I think. People can either accept my opinion or not, completely as their choice.

All I'm saying is that people are unlikely to accept someone else's information as being correct if they are unwilling to show their source. No need to get antsy about it.

Originally Posted by Simon M

No, he probably hasn't, but I have. You posted something that was blatantly an internal document, which YOU had no permission to place in the public Domain.

That document may have been current, or years old, we have no idea, and nor do you. I suggest you back away from this thread.

24th june 2004 simon, pretty recent by my calculations.

What are NTL hiding for?They need to be more open with their customers.
Blatantly an internal document? come on simon! people on here would tell you it isnt real, because i dont name a source!
And dont threaten me either.
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Originally Posted by Nugget

I don't expect anyone to give a 'flying fig' what I think. People can either accept my opinion or not, completely as their choice.

All I'm saying is that people are unlikely to accept someone else's information as being correct if they are unwilling to show their source. No need to get antsy about it.

Who is getting antsy? not me.
If I name a source that could compromise somebody, no thanks, you dont believe it? thats your shout.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

24th june 2004 simon, pretty recent by my calculations.

What are NTL hiding for?They need to be more open with their customers.
Blatantly an internal document? come on simon! people on here would tell you it isnt real, because i dont name a source!
And dont threaten me either.

How can you define something 15 months old as recent? In a business sense, that's practically obsolete.

If you feel that ntl are hiding something, then name your source and we can also decide for ourselves.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

24th june 2004 simon, pretty recent by my calculations.

What are NTL hiding for?They need to be more open with their customers.
Blatantly an internal document? come on simon! people on here would tell you it isnt real, because i dont name a source!
And dont threaten me either.

Not a threat-----> If you don't start posting with a bit more civility, you won't be posting at all.

We're happy for the discussion to continue, but please don't get drawn into an arguement (that applies to everyone )

It's obvious that this subject is important to you & we all respect that, but it would appear that this thread will be heading straight into a row if we don;t just step in & say hello.

Hello....

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Who is getting antsy? not me.
If I name a source that could compromise somebody, no thanks, you dont believe it? thats your shout.

Surely if you're quoting something that could compromise somebody, you shouldn't have quoted it in the first place?

Originally Posted by Neil

Not a threat-----> If you don't start posting with a bit more civility, you won't be posting at all.

We're happy for the discussion to continue, but please don;t get drawn into an arguement.

It's obvious that this subject is important to you & we all respect that, but it would appear that this thread will be heading straight into a row if we don;t just step in & say hello.

Hello....

I suggest that you echo your sentiments about " civility " to other people, namely people who work for NTL.
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Originally Posted by Nugget

Surely if you're quoting something that could compromise somebody, you shouldn't have quoted it in the first place?

It only compromises someone if you name them.

[Nemesis]

Nugget doesn't work for NTL ... nor do I ....

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

It only compromises someone if you name them.

But you're asking us to accept this without supporting it. For all we know, your 'source' is the binman.

Originally Posted by Simon M

Nugget doesn't work for NTL ... nor do I ....

Simon, if I think that you or nugget have not been civil i will let you know
Mention " people who work for NTL " and people jump to conclusions.
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Originally Posted by Nugget

But you're asking us to accept this without supporting it. For all we know, your 'source' is the binman.

I am not asking you or anyone to accept it, i put it up to give people something to think about, if they think " well there isnt a named source so it cannot be right" thats fine by me.
On the subject of sources, how many times do you or anyone buy a paper and think " well there is no named source so it cannot be true "
If that was the case, there would be a lot of bankrupted newspapers.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Simon M

Nugget doesn't work for NTL ... nor do I ....

He means me