"Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
18-09-2005, 16:32
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
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Originally Posted by handyman
Not really because if its serving webpages then it will serve the page in a nano second then the user will view the page for a minute or so allowing many other connections to be made.
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If its just Web Pages and a few images, yes. However if it's all rich media, video, music, animations, etc. then the line will get tied up, and with lightning fast lines everyone will be demanding rich content at high speeds.
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18-09-2005, 17:03
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
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Originally Posted by Ignition
No it's not dude.
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My mistake.
Has ntls business ethernet-ethernet in mind
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19-09-2005, 00:18
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
Alot of webservers often have a speed cap per connection or some form of limiting/shaping dependant on content meaning that the effect of a few users with ultra fast connections dont start saturating the service for other users... then again download accelerators can get away with this through multiple threads in which the response would be to limit per IP.
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19-09-2005, 00:29
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
This should be moved to humour 
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19-09-2005, 02:03
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
ntl appear to have done something, pages are loading at the snap of a finger, it isn't just me or a few sites, I wouldn't have noticed or commented on it if it was so apparent and different. Still on proxies, still 3mb.
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19-09-2005, 04:57
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
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Originally Posted by JeLLyMaN
If where your downloading from have a half decent upload(which all good servers have) it should be easily achiveable to download at ~1.2mb/s(10mbit).
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10mbit/sec in a single transfer will be quite rare, forget it from usa for a start, I only see 750kB from new york which is right on the entry to usa and if I go further in then its normall 500kB per thread or 250kB if cogent.
Around europe its more possible but then you might only be accessing a 10mbit server.
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Originally Posted by ian@huth
The main bits of the infrastructure are already in place. That is the bits that would take the longest time to install. Some expensive extra kit would be required as well as new customer modems.
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Internally I beleive you are talking about, I dont think NTL got the peering capacity to handle that kind of traffic.
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19-09-2005, 08:28
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
if this is true NTL bb would be able to transfer data faster than most peoples wireless lans 
(due to overheads 54mbit on a 54g lan is impossible, mine usally tops out at around 10 - 15mbits , That is ofcourse on internal transfers the internet connection isn't that fast...)
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19-09-2005, 09:14
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
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Originally Posted by handyman
My mistake.
Has ntls business ethernet-ethernet in mind
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That's done over fibre to premises metro ethernet, doesn't traverse the coax network at any point.
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19-09-2005, 11:40
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
all these high speeds sound great but I suspect they're useless to the average punter or to put it another way, they'll make no difference - as the sites we access wont support it (at the moment). perhaps NTL are counting on this as their unofficial 'contention' method - ie. give us 10-25meg connections but they are limited/contended by the simple fact the sites we connect to only connect at 2meg.
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19-09-2005, 12:09
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
all these high speeds sound great but I suspect they're useless to the average punter or to put it another way, they'll make no difference - as the sites we access wont support it (at the moment). perhaps NTL are counting on this as their unofficial 'contention' method - ie. give us 10-25meg connections but they are limited/contended by the simple fact the sites we connect to only connect at 2meg.
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Not really these high speeds just aren't planned at the moment so not really an issue.
A lot of sites are on 10 or 100Mbit connections, not many are hosted on 2Mbit leased lines, and those that are you aren't going to be downloading files from 
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19-09-2005, 18:44
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
This constant notional increase in speed is just a smokescreen. They really arent offering us much extra. What I really want and what i would be happy with is my existing 1mb connection reduced in price. I dont need anything faster than that.
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19-09-2005, 19:18
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
They can be very dentrimental as demon isp users have discovered, demon rolled out a mass upgrade from 512kbit to 2mbit and users went from a steady 512kbit connection to below 100kbit in the evenings.
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19-09-2005, 21:53
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
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Originally Posted by dooper786
This constant notional increase in speed is just a smokescreen. They really arent offering us much extra. What I really want and what i would be happy with is my existing 1mb connection reduced in price. I dont need anything faster than that.
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There are certain fixed costs associated with supplying each and every connection regardless of speed, so there's a limit to how low the prices can go!
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19-09-2005, 23:15
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
£9.99 to be exact!
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19-09-2005, 23:16
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"
Does this mean I can download me porn faster......I mean work faster.
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