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Old 16-09-2005, 20:17   #16
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

It seems like they are just doing it to keep up!
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Old 16-09-2005, 20:20   #17
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

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What you (and the people going on about the caps and "you will use it in 5 minutes") keep forgetting, or overlooking, is that it doesn't make a blind bit of difference if you have a 10M/25M/50M or a 1GB connection - downloads will only be as fast as the overall connection speed. If the far end server is on a 2MB connection then that's all you will get (and then only if you are the only person downloading).

In fact, the one time this won't be true is if the file already resides on the ntl proxy you have been routed through - then it will serve you up the file from its cache, and since it's on the ntl network, you should get it much faster (score 1 for the proxies )
When did i say anythin about the cap? I was talkin about the upload speed m8 lol
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Old 16-09-2005, 20:31   #18
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

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When did i say anythin about the cap? I was talkin about the upload speed m8 lol
he says you then in brackets the people on about caps
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Old 16-09-2005, 21:33   #19
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

With 50Mbs someone is not going to be downloading from one server, they are going to be downloading 10 Linux distro's from 10 different servers at the same time, so the upload speed is going to have to be enough to cope, otherwise it will have to be advertised as "Up to 50Mbs", not got the same ring to it somehow, has it.
Then there is the family of six, all downloading, yes, we are going have to demand that ntl make the upload speed 10Mbs at the very minimum.

On the workfront positive side, ntl is going to have to increase the number of staff in the "Sending letters out" dept. due to everyone going over the monthly cap on an hourly basis.
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Old 16-09-2005, 21:51   #20
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

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During the course of next year, won't be long now folks, ntl will offer 2 new speeds, 25Mbs and 50Mbs.

At the moment it is not known if the new speeds are in addition to the 10Mbs tiers, but rumour has it that there will be just 2 speeds, 25Mbs for the casual surfer and 50Mbs for the power user, but we will have to wait and see.

Pricing of whatever tiers will be based on the speed + amount of data transferred, with competitive prices to suit all customers needs.

Have a nice weekend.
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50Mb/s my ****, the technology doesn't even exist in a completed form to achieve that yet with traditional cable infrastructure. There is exactly one way to do it with current technology which involves investment that makes these upgrades seem like chump change and involves fundamental infrastructure changes.

Some other stuff there that I know isn't true but thanks for the amusement anyway, obviously that liver isn't metabolising the alcohol as well as the previous one did.
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Old 16-09-2005, 22:22   #21
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

this is 2 part message from a game forum today.

new packages for 2006

bronze package 10mb down/480 up

silver package 25mb/2mb

gold package 50mb/4mb ( new modems required, and may be early 2007 before its rolled out completely)

will be different charge for all packages + premium on top for your chosen download limit

from what ive heard unlimited on 50mb would be £100 month.

500gig would be £50-70
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the lowest line will be 10mb bro..... thats the slowest speed they gonna offer.

if ur on the gold package now, u will be getting letter soon asking you if you wish take the options of download limits etc, your speed will be 10mb b4 octobers out.
at moment price will be same as gold 37.99 for 10mb but with 75gig monthly limit.
story im hearing is its not gonna be inforced like it is now, unless u take the ****. at moment that taking the **** standard depends how many others are on ntl in ur area. but the trigger for letters is 150gig a month(i do 250+ but im only person on ntl within 4miles, got my very own green box all too my self.lol)


when 2mb upgrades to 10mb, 3mb will go to 25mb etc its rolling program. the 1mb lines will be 10mb by end of 2006/7 the prices will be same now..

bronze 9.99~17.99
silver 24.99
gold 37.99
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Old 16-09-2005, 23:24   #22
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

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Originally Posted by DrK
this is 2 part message from a game forum today.

new packages for 2006

bronze package 10mb down/480 up

silver package 25mb/2mb

gold package 50mb/4mb ( new modems required, and may be early 2007 before its rolled out completely)

will be different charge for all packages + premium on top for your chosen download limit

from what ive heard unlimited on 50mb would be £100 month.

500gig would be £50-70
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the lowest line will be 10mb bro..... thats the slowest speed they gonna offer.

if ur on the gold package now, u will be getting letter soon asking you if you wish take the options of download limits etc, your speed will be 10mb b4 octobers out.
at moment price will be same as gold 37.99 for 10mb but with 75gig monthly limit.
story im hearing is its not gonna be inforced like it is now, unless u take the ****. at moment that taking the **** standard depends how many others are on ntl in ur area. but the trigger for letters is 150gig a month(i do 250+ but im only person on ntl within 4miles, got my very own green box all too my self.lol)


when 2mb upgrades to 10mb, 3mb will go to 25mb etc its rolling program. the 1mb lines will be 10mb by end of 2006/7 the prices will be same now..

bronze 9.99~17.99
silver 24.99
gold 37.99
I REALLY hope that all this is true but i really doubt it is lol
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Old 16-09-2005, 23:27   #23
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

Its not the elusive 'xbox man' csr again is it
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Old 17-09-2005, 00:05   #24
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

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Its not the elusive 'xbox man' csr again is it
Well so far we have 'the man in the pub' and now the 'man on something unspecified but chances are its not entirely legal'
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Old 17-09-2005, 00:08   #25
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

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Originally Posted by DrK
this is 2 part message from a game forum today.

new packages for 2006

bronze package 10mb down/480 up

silver package 25mb/2mb

gold package 50mb/4mb ( new modems required, and may be early 2007 before its rolled out completely)

will be different charge for all packages + premium on top for your chosen download limit

from what ive heard unlimited on 50mb would be £100 month.

500gig would be £50-70
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response below to someone`s message about upgrading from 3mb
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the lowest line will be 10mb bro..... thats the slowest speed they gonna offer.

if ur on the gold package now, u will be getting letter soon asking you if you wish take the options of download limits etc, your speed will be 10mb b4 octobers out.
at moment price will be same as gold 37.99 for 10mb but with 75gig monthly limit.
story im hearing is its not gonna be inforced like it is now, unless u take the ****. at moment that taking the **** standard depends how many others are on ntl in ur area. but the trigger for letters is 150gig a month(i do 250+ but im only person on ntl within 4miles, got my very own green box all too my self.lol)


when 2mb upgrades to 10mb, 3mb will go to 25mb etc its rolling program. the 1mb lines will be 10mb by end of 2006/7 the prices will be same now..

bronze 9.99~17.99
silver 24.99
gold 37.99
And here was me thinking today was going to be boring. Then along came 2 very good bits of fantasy that just cheered me up not end.

At the moment i cannot stop doing this -------> Sorry but you lot that write this fiction should do something worth while with your talent and write a book or 2.

Here's my prediction Someone is going to have egg on his face and i know it ain't me
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

Old chinese proverb:

Man with egg on face has chicken head
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

Can a passing mod rename this thread, "Man in the pub" says "hic hic"
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

I dont think this is true somehow
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

latest rumour from another forum is the tiers will be increased to 6meg, 8meg and 10meg on 5th October!

(thats megabits not megabytes folks!)
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

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The upload will need to remain roughly 10% of the download bandwidth to prevent ACK packets (google it) from saturating the connection and effectively throttling the download capacity.
Nah about 2% is quite adequate dude.

Oh and last I heard the 2005/6 packages are not yet finallised so seems unlike that the 2006/7 ones would be.
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