"Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

[slowcoach]

Well the "Bloke in the Pub" is now out of hospital, new liver running well! Lemonade all round bartender.

He thanks everyone for the Get Well cards.

NEWS from the ntl Waste Baskets:
He tells me that the reason there has been minor problems of late, nationwide, is due to the massive updating of the infrastructure which has been going on, all work so far has gone really well with minimum inconvenience to current customers.

Due to the rapidly improving financial position of ntl the major shareholders have given ntl the green light to kick ar$e.

During the course of next year, won't be long now folks, ntl will offer 2 new speeds, 25Mbs and 50Mbs.

At the moment it is not known if the new speeds are in addition to the 10Mbs tiers, but rumour has it that there will be just 2 speeds, 25Mbs for the casual surfer and 50Mbs for the power user, but we will have to wait and see.

Pricing of whatever tiers will be based on the speed + amount of data transferred, with competitive prices to suit all customers needs.

Have a nice weekend.

We shall see.

[etccarmageddon]

of course they'll offer 25meg as they have to in order to pee on the LLU ADSL operators parades. Bloody useless though for most of as as servers we connect to dont support more than 2meg! nice news though and I suspect upstream bandwidth is where people now have concerns about.

[jtwn]

Haha, gotta love the BitP

But, holy ****, 25mb and 50mb is ridiculous and amazing at the same time. How one would deliver it over existing infrastructure beats my knowledge but you are giving the idea that this looks to be for residential customers? I am amazed...

[punky]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

of course they'll offer 25meg as they have to in order to pee on the LLU ADSL operators parades.

Especially as ADSL's speeds are wholly dependent on distance to the exchange, so even as more exchanges get added, you'd be lucky to get anywhere near 24mpbs. NTL should be able to give you that consistently, wherever you live, due to fibre optics rather than copper.

50meg eh? Blimey. that's 6.10 megabytes (not megabits) a second true throughput.

[Hans Gruber]

And apparently the 50mbit connection will have the upstream increased... to 350k

[bdav]

Honestly - who needs that !? If so many people have 25meg internet, wont that take its toll on web hosts? Even so 25 meg would be amazing. Will they have to update much of the infrastructure? Or will it just be a matter of changing the config files?

[Robc66]

Originally Posted by Hans Gruber

And apparently the 50mbit connection will have the upstream increased... to 350k

LOLOLOLOL

[Keytops]

..and a 30gig cap?

What's that..... about 5 minutes use

[punky]

Originally Posted by Keytops

..and a 30gig cap?

What's that..... about 5 minutes use

about 84 mins And if you go buy the old daily cap of 1 gig/day, then 2.8 mins

[DocDutch]

Originally Posted by Hans Gruber

And apparently the 50mbit connection will have the upstream increased... to 350k

sad to say but it might be true :O nahh with this kinda connection and as far as I know the speeds of Copper are near unlimited just depends on the network itself.

I hope they would say like with the 3 meg and 2 meg lines that upload will be 5mb on the 50mb line.....on the 25 would be something like 2.5mb

now that would be serious fun

[Jon M]

The upload will need to remain roughly 10% of the download bandwidth to prevent ACK packets (google it) from saturating the connection and effectively throttling the download capacity.

[Robc66]

Originally Posted by Jon M

The upload will need to remain roughly 10% of the download bandwidth to prevent ACK packets (google it) from saturating the connection and effectively throttling the download capacity.

If that was true than how are telewest gonna do 10mbit down with 384 up?
If it was 10% then they wud have to do 1mbit upload on it right?

Originally Posted by Robc66

If that was true than how are telewest gonna do 10mbit down with 384 up?
If it was 10% then they wud have to do 1mbit upload on it right?

What you (and the people going on about the caps and "you will use it in 5 minutes") keep forgetting, or overlooking, is that it doesn't make a blind bit of difference if you have a 10M/25M/50M or a 1GB connection - downloads will only be as fast as the overall connection speed. If the far end server is on a 2MB connection then that's all you will get (and then only if you are the only person downloading).

In fact, the one time this won't be true is if the file already resides on the ntl proxy you have been routed through - then it will serve you up the file from its cache, and since it's on the ntl network, you should get it much faster (score 1 for the proxies )

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Paul M

What you (and the people going on about the caps and "you will use it in 5 minutes") keep forgetting, or overlooking, is that it doesn't make a blind bit of difference if you have a 10M/25M/50M or a 1GB connection - downloads will only be as fast as the overall connection speed. If the far end server is on a 2MB connection then that's all you will get (and then only if you are the only person downloading).

True. Each connection on the internet is like a chain, and, like a chain, is only as strong (or fast in this case) as the weakest (or slowest) link.

In fact, the one time this won't be true is if the file already resides on the ntl proxy you have been routed through - then it will serve you up the file from its cache, and since it's on the ntl network, you should get it much faster (score 1 for the proxies )

Assuming the proxies are correctly configured and not malfunctioning...