*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion (Part 3)

[Doofy]

2 meg unlimited but there T&Cs still state that they can and will take action if they deem that a user is affecting the network. After just dealing with AOL all i can say is come back NTL alls forgiven, AOLs customer service is absolutely diabolical

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by bbr81

Well isn't true that we can all go over to the AOL network over NTL lines?

They offer 2meg line unlimited for £29.99 per month.

You do not have to use there software, just their connection. So this is a better offer than NTL and is cheaper?


BB

AOL only offer the £24.99 1 Mbps Gold service over NTL cable.

Originally Posted by bbr81
Well isn't true that we can all go over to the AOL network over NTL lines?

They offer 2meg line unlimited for £29.99 per month.

You do not have to use there software, just their connection. So this is a better offer than NTL and is cheaper?


BB

Originally Posted by ian@huth

AOL only offer the £24.99 1 Mbps Gold service over NTL cable.

So not cheaper in the slightest

[Chrysalis]

£24.99 unmetered, how is that not cheaper then 30gig metered?

[Skippie]

Originally Posted by Safeman

wot the hell are you guys downloading to go over the limet

Read my last post (7 before yours). Totally free, legit dvd downloads

[cookie_365]

Originally Posted by PC_Arcade

Doesn't that just monitor one machine?
PLUS, I can't see any option for ignoring network traffic, looks like that isn't right either

Oops !

Next time I'll try to read your post properly before replying ...

[bilal]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

£24.99 unmetered, how is that not cheaper then 30gig metered?

£24.99 for 1meg and just to say i know 2 ppl who have aol. They absolutly hate it, random disconnects etc etc... dont even compare aol with ntl, there is no comparison lol

[theNomad]

sorry chris w and fellow cf admins/mods,you run a fair site keeping users comments intact,ive had a bummer of a bank holiday period and wrongly took my frustrations out on sections of members here who have different opinions than me.

I have watch these threads with interest and find it funny so many like or think caps are ok and that most will be happy with them

Well most here who defend the cap are people with vested interest in ntl,and would sooner their customers use their connections for surfing websites alone.

AOL only offer the £24.99 1 Mbps Gold service over NTL cable.

I pay £24.99p m on the top of a tv-phone package that boosts it to around the £85pm mark and only get the 1.5mb 30gb cap service <*cough*>hehe not untill they hardcap me,or suspend me when I'll be taking my custom elsewhere<*/cough*> as Ive the old pace box.

Ive spent an average of £1020 per year thats around £4080 over the four highly happy years (mainly at the OK for me unlimited 750k level) not much is it put next to the debt ive read ntl have,but its money all the same & money I'd sooner spend on a service I would be happy with instead of the silly giving with one hand speed increases and taking with the other hand download cap.

On another issue Ive been speaking with an ntl service man about the caps,he mentioned that theres been real problems with people sharing the same ips because a mess up in the manufacture of set-top boxes I think.I'm no tech geek and know its just clutching at straws from my end and is just another anti-cap moan really,but can anyone back if this is the case up and if it would give false readings on users stats ?

I guess untill we have a means of testing what we use over multiple machines our self,then we cant know what we are using.Maybe I'll have to give my kids bedrooms their own 5gb cap limit.I did try with netlimiter but it reset the bloody stats when I turned off and restarted my PC.

Originally Posted by theNomad

On another issue Ive been speaking with an ntl service man about the caps,he mentioned that there's been real problems with people sharing the same ips because a mess up in the manufacture of set-top boxes .

News to me. I have not heard a word about that on any of the meetings i attend. ?

If i am correct the monitoring is not done on the ip anyway.

[mcmanic]

Originally Posted by bilal

and just to say i know 2 ppl who have aol. They absolutly hate it, random disconnects etc etc... dont even compare aol with ntl, there is no comparison lol

can say that about any isp to be fair, they all have problems at some stage, i used AOL on dialup and never had a prob, i know people on AOL who are more than happy with their service and gloat at NTL capped users at the mo. I cannot wait to get another letter so i can cancel everything then get a NTL engineer back in to reinstall AOL on NTL's network!

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by theNomad

Well most here who defend the cap are people with vested interest in ntl,and would sooner their customers use their connections for surfing websites alone.

You don't know that. For instance, I have been known to defend the cap, and have no vested interest in NTL. In fact, beyond the fact I am friends with people who work there (and obviously don't want them to lose their jobs), it really wouldn't affect me much if NTL folded.

Apart from that, if I found the Cap caused me problems, I'd be off.

On another issue Ive been speaking with an ntl service man about the caps,he mentioned that theres been real problems with people sharing the same ips because a mess up in the manufacture of set-top boxes I think.I'm no tech geek and know its just clutching at straws from my end and is just another anti-cap moan really,but can anyone back if this is the case up and if it would give false readings on users stats ?

TBH, in all likelyhood, if two machines took the same IP, one (or both) of them would not be able to recieve or send and data (as the routers on the internet would have no way of knowing where to route the data).

I guess untill we have a means of testing what we use over multiple machines our self,then we cant know what we are using.Maybe I'll have to give my kids bedrooms their own 5gb cap limit.I did try with netlimiter but it reset the bloody stats when I turned off and restarted my PC.

Agreed, I think, at the very least, NTL should have a download meter..

[rogerdraig]

Quote:
I have watch these threads with interest and find it funny so many like or think caps are ok and that most will be happy with them


Well most here who defend the cap are people with vested interest in ntl,and would sooner their customers use their connections for surfing websites alone.


ah those must be very loyal employess or are they board members in disgiuse lol

[bilal]

ntl must have some way to monitor bandwidth once the updates take place, their not idiots (bet someones going to say they are lol). Otherwise ppl could just say how did i know

[FrankieX]

I'm curious about what level of usage people who got this letter will have to adhere to in order to keep their current package, be moved to a new package and get kicked off altogether.

You would think that getting the monthly total below the trigger for recieving the letters (which may be 150GB) would be enough to keep the current package, simply because NTL seems willing to leave people at that level so far. Would it be fair that someone downloading 151GB in July and 101GB in September would be kicked off their package whilst someone downloading 145GB every month isn't, for example?

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by rogermevans

Quote:
I have watch these threads with interest and find it funny so many like or think caps are ok and that most will be happy with them


Well most here who defend the cap are people with vested interest in ntl,and would sooner their customers use their connections for surfing websites alone.


ah those must be very loyal employess or are they board members in disgiuse lol

Not an employee and the only vested interest i have is getting the connection i pay for without it being impacted on because someone doesnt beleive in staying inside the cap. The amount of downloading per month some people do is bordering on the ridiculous, but they just got to keep the downloads going! and before someone mentions it, it makes absolutely no difference if its legal downloads or not, and i would hazzard a guess that the majority of 200+gig a month isnt, the cap is there we all know what the cap is so keep within it or go elsewhere simnple really. The i can legally download argument is total ****** yes you can but there is a cap so no you cant deal with it or go find anither ISP that will allow it. That is untill they have the same problems as NTL with the bandwidth being raped by the serial downloaders .. rant over Flame away.....