Cheap & Cheerful Graphics Card

it will batter into submission any sempron.

My advice to you would be go for a 939 board not a soc 754. If your dead set on agp you should be able to find a nforce 3 chipset.
If your flexable on that go for a pci e mobo and gfx.If its a new build spend the highest limit. Give us an idea of total funds and we can have a look


3000 venice 939 £82
basic asus nforce 4 pci-e £76
x800 £146

prices from overclockers

[Alan E]

I will not be building for a few weeks yet. I will post what I propose to buy & then you guys can put me right!

Cheers for the help so far.

Alan.

[marky]

Originally Posted by Alan E

I will not be building for a few weeks yet. I will post what I propose to buy & then you guys can put me right!

Cheers for the help so far.

Alan.

just me but ask zing the tech freak when you are ready

did i just compliment someone

Originally Posted by markymoan

just me but ask zing the tech freak when you are ready

did i just compliment someone

[Matth]

Unconvinced by "64 bit" - YET! - and I say this with an Intel P4 640 (64 bit, hyperthreading, 2Mb cahe) on my desk.

At the moment, the best that can be said of most "64 bit" processors, is that they are 64 bit ready - since while I belive you can get 64 bit windows, ther is very little 64 bit software.

If you worry about 64 bit, maybe you should also worry about dual core.

Sure, the "full" Athlon 64's are better than the Sempron 64's - as they have more cache.
64 bitness is not a factor, unless you plan to upgrade to 64 bit windows during the lifetime of the machine - a lifetime which is already set to see another AMD socket specification.


I am convinced, not of any real merit in PCI-E over AGP 8x, but that the switchover has been forced to the point where you would not want to be looking for an AGP card upgrade in a year or two's time. Until the AMD motherboards with PCI-E came out, I though it was going to end up as an Intel versus AMD thing.

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by Matth

Unconvinced by "64 bit" - YET! - and I say this with an Intel P4 640 (64 bit, hyperthreading, 2Mb cahe) on my desk.

At the moment, the best that can be said of most "64 bit" processors, is that they are 64 bit ready - since while I belive you can get 64 bit windows, ther is very little 64 bit software.

If you worry about 64 bit, maybe you should also worry about dual core.

Sure, the "full" Athlon 64's are better than the Sempron 64's - as they have more cache.
64 bitness is not a factor, unless you plan to upgrade to 64 bit windows during the lifetime of the machine - a lifetime which is already set to see another AMD socket specification.

It is a factor when the 64-bit chips (AMD ones, anyway) outperform 32-bit ones by a large margin, even in 32-bit mode.

64-bit-ness is also a factor for me because I use Linux. 64-bit builds are available just as easily as 32-bit versions, and offer decent performance benefits.

And what socket change, out of interest? I haven't read anything that suggests that AMD are going to ditch Socket 939 any time soon...

Originally Posted by Tristan

It is a factor when the 64-bit chips (AMD ones, anyway) outperform 32-bit ones by a large margin, even in 32-bit mode.

64-bit-ness is also a factor for me because I use Linux. 64-bit builds are available just as easily as 32-bit versions, and offer decent performance benefits.

And what socket change, out of interest? I haven't read anything that suggests that AMD are going to ditch Socket 939 any time soon...

Theres the soc M2 on its way but afaik its not gonna replace 939 Till next year


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05...t_m2_desktops/

main addition is support for ddr2,Personally I think they should have waited for ddr3
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Originally Posted by Matth

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AMD64 chips out perform EMT64 I believe by some ways. Also they totally batter 32 bit chips all comers wether there running 64 bit windows or apps or not