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Old 21-06-2005, 21:37   #91
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Re: *All* Speed Increases Discussion In here. (Part 5)
Have just heard that freedom2surf are to start offering ADSL2 along with full rate ADSL. This means that once my exchange is sorted I will get 8mb for 24.99

http://www.f2s.com/adsl/homeuser.php

when will ntl catch up on this one?
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Old 21-06-2005, 21:49   #92
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Re: *All* Speed Increases Discussion In here. (Part 5)
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Have just heard that freedom2surf are to start offering ADSL2 along with full rate ADSL. This means that once my exchange is sorted I will get 8mb for 24.99

http://www.f2s.com/adsl/homeuser.php

when will ntl catch up on this one?
Already posted about freedom2search in another area of the forum, you can only get full speed if you are close to the exchange, no speeds are guaranteed and only certain exchanges are ready to go full speed and only certain others are planned to be upgraded any time soon.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=30646
These are the exchanges that are ready to go
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Can I get 8mbit broadband?
You can currently get 8mbit broadband though freedom2surf via the following easynet LLU enabled exchanges.
Bermondsey CLBER
Brixton WRBRIX
Canonbury CLCAN
Coventry CMCGF
Halfway WSHAL
Hinckley EMHINCK
Middlesbrough NEMI
Nuneaton CMNUN
Orpington (Alpha) LSORP
Parsons Green WRPGRN
Shoreditch CLSHO
South Harrow LWSHAR
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Sounds good but you're capped to 100GIG per month, where as ukonline 8MB capped 500GIG per month £29.99
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sorry to bring this up but only just found this thread, whats with the moaning about paying £5 to rent a modem? my modem is in my STB, I have it there whether I use it or and and rent it as part of the cable tv package (well actually I pay £15 for it and the box as its the 2nd one we have) and then I am paying the full price for the BB, so I am paying £20 for mine - get off your soap box, you have had the modems for years by all accounts and more than had your money's worth out of it.
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Sounds good but you're capped to 100GIG per month, where as ukonline 8MB capped 500GIG per month £29.99
f2s is uncapped at night, 100gig for daytime use should be enough for most people, big downloads can be ran through the night when your not using your computer.

f2s also don't block ports, the upload is higher, static ip
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f2s is uncapped at night, 100gig for daytime use should be enough for most people, big downloads can be ran through the night when your not using your computer.

f2s also don't block ports, the upload is higher, static ip
Thanks for the info, still stuck with 3MB, until my exchange is upgraded (should've been done in May).

As for 100gig, I still haven't used that much, this year, yet!
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Re: *All* Speed Increases Discussion In here. (Part 5)
The f2s network is awsome too! check this tracert to bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms i-194-106-33-153.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.15
3]
3 18 ms 20 ms 19 ms i-194-106-32-12.freedom2surf.net [194.106.32.12]

4 21 ms 22 ms 20 ms bbc-gw1-linx.prt0.thdoe.bbc.co.uk [195.66.226.10
3]
5 24 ms 19 ms 19 ms 212.58.238.129
6 19 ms 23 ms 22 ms www40.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.85]

Trace complete.

when i had ntl it was more like 25 hops at 90-200ms

as you can tell, I'm a very happy customer indeed.

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Old 23-06-2005, 22:24   #98
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Re: *All* Speed Increases Discussion In here. (Part 5)
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The f2s network is awsome too! check this tracert to bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms i-194-106-33-153.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.15
3]
3 18 ms 20 ms 19 ms i-194-106-32-12.freedom2surf.net [194.106.32.12]

4 21 ms 22 ms 20 ms bbc-gw1-linx.prt0.thdoe.bbc.co.uk [195.66.226.10
3]
5 24 ms 19 ms 19 ms 212.58.238.129
6 19 ms 23 ms 22 ms www40.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.85]

Trace complete.

when i had ntl it was more like 25 hops at 90-200ms

as you can tell, I'm a very happy customer indeed.

Terry
*Slight exaggeration on the 25 hops Terry, think you'll find it's fixed now too!

Nice first hop, thank BT for that one.

BTW I win:

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 7 ms 6 ms 9 ms 10.118.208.1
2 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms sot3-t2cam1-b-ge95.inet.ntl.com [80.4.226.141]
3 7 ms 5 ms 5 ms sot3-t2core-b-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [80.4.225.13
3]
4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms gfd-bb-b-so-330-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.53]
5 10 ms 18 ms 10 ms tele-ic-2-so-110-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.74]

6 11 ms 9 ms 8 ms ntl-ge2-8.prt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.217]
7 9 ms 14 ms 9 ms 212.58.238.153
8 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms www15.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.115]

Trace complete.

You may win on hops, but then I see all of mine including the local ones, rather than a ton of invisible hops on BT's network hidden by ATM and then L2TP VPN

Best try again...

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 12 ms 6 ms 6 ms 10.118.208.1
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms sot3-t2cam1-b-ge95.inet.ntl.com [80.4.226.141]
3 13 ms 6 ms 6 ms sot3-t2core-b-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [80.4.225.133]
4 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms gfd-bb-b-so-330-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.53]
5 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms tele-ic-2-so-110-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.74]

6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms ntl-ge2-8.prt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.217]
7 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms 212.58.238.153
8 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms www15.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.115]

Nah I still win I'm at the beeb before you're at F2S.

Freedom to Surf's network can't really be compared to ntl's. ntl's is nationwide, most of the work that ntl's network does is done by BT, F2S's network is some fibre and routers in datacentres.

Anyway this talk belongs in the 'alternatives to' section, as does this link to an F2S forum showing the happy and the less than happy side of being one of their customers: http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=f2s
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Re: *All* Speed Increases Discussion In here. (Part 5)
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Have just heard that freedom2surf are to start offering ADSL2 along with full rate ADSL. This means that once my exchange is sorted I will get 8mb for 24.99

http://www.f2s.com/adsl/homeuser.php

when will ntl catch up on this one?
Ah btw not only is it capped but it's using the UKOnline network anyway, the same one that UKO are offering 8Mbit for less cash with 500GB/month cap on.

Google Easynet LLUStream for more info.

NTL response? Absolutely, once the full rate speeds are a BT Wholesale product, be stupid not to.
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Re: *All* Speed Increases Discussion In here. (Part 5)
Well the ms is disctated by distance as well, tkiely might be in north england or scotland.

here is mine from midlands, looking quite nice.

1 6 ms 7 ms 10 ms 10.8.143.254
2 13 ms 7 ms 6 ms leic-t2cam1-a-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.149]
3 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms leic-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.6]

4 16 ms 9 ms 10 ms lee-bb-a-so-220-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.110]

5 14 ms 15 ms 13 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]

6 12 ms 15 ms 12 ms pop-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.78]
7 14 ms 19 ms 14 ms tele-ic-2-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.86]

8 13 ms 14 ms 15 ms ntl-ge2-8.prt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.217]
9 21 ms 13 ms 14 ms 212.58.238.153
10 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms rdirwww-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.131]
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Well the ms is disctated by distance as well, tkiely might be in north england or scotland.

here is mine from midlands, looking quite nice.

1 6 ms 7 ms 10 ms 10.8.143.254
2 13 ms 7 ms 6 ms leic-t2cam1-a-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.149]
3 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms leic-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.6]

4 16 ms 9 ms 10 ms lee-bb-a-so-220-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.110]

5 14 ms 15 ms 13 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]

6 12 ms 15 ms 12 ms pop-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.78]
7 14 ms 19 ms 14 ms tele-ic-2-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.86]

8 13 ms 14 ms 15 ms ntl-ge2-8.prt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.217]
9 21 ms 13 ms 14 ms 212.58.238.153
10 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms rdirwww-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.131]
Is that adsl or ntl?
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have you tried

http://www.ntlworld.com/data-feeds/e...tierMigration/

you will need to provide the correct user name & password for your account
I've been on 750K for a while; I just tried that link, but it didn't work. I looked for it on ntl's homepage and the link is:

http://bbplus.ntlworld.com/data-feeds/editorial/microsites/tierMigration/

Unfortunately, I can't upgrade at the moment because of the ongoing upgrade to the billing system.

Oh well. I'll try again next week.
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