[merged] binary newsgroups on NTL

[Matth]

Best news would be if they were to farm it out, with a reasonable quota on a good quality provider - it must work for the ISPs that have done it, and it saves them maintaining a service for a minority of customers, while still being able to say it comes with newsgroup support!

I'd guess that the average P2P noob today wouldn't know a news server if it jumped up and bit them, while many know nothing beyond web and email - and don't want to.

Originally Posted by Matth

Best news would be if they were to farm it out, with a reasonable quota on a good quality provider - it must work for the ISPs that have done it, and it saves them maintaining a service for a minority of customers, while still being able to say it comes with newsgroup support!

I'd guess that the average P2P noob today wouldn't know a news server if it jumped up and bit them, while many know nothing beyond web and email - and don't want to.

the software doesn't help - Internet Explorer can't natively understand yEnc, while Thunderbird doesn't do 'combine & decode' without external help ( but does understand some yEnc) - not NTL's fault, of course - i have to say their servers are very fast, but retention & completion often leave a lot to be desired for the larger groups. I wait to see what 'improvements', we get

I use giganews and newsbin pro,unlimited account 250 gig in the first month (evaluation purposes of course)

[iron25]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

I use giganews and newsbin pro,unlimited account 250 gig in the first month (evaluation purposes of course)

Might I suggest switching to newshosting. Just as good as giganews and £6 a month cheaper. Unless you need the 50 day retention I would give newshosting a try.

I will have a butchers chhers dude

[jtwn]

You may want to check out if the speeds satisfy you on nhs first before dumping giganews..

I must agree with you homealone that ntl's speed is superb, I wonder how fast it can actually go, but in my experience whilst the retention is awful, I downloaded a large 14 day old post fine the other day, so its quite random too. I find completion greaat though, if the group is carried, the articles will be there..for a short while.

[iron25]

Originally Posted by jtwn

You may want to check out if the speeds satisfy you on nhs first before dumping giganews..

I must agree with you homealone that ntl's speed is superb, I wonder how fast it can actually go, but in my experience whilst the retention is awful, I downloaded a large 14 day old post fine the other day, so its quite random too. I find completion greaat though, if the group is carried, the articles will be there..for a short while.

Newsbin Pro is currently downloading at 360KBps from newshosting

[Graham]

Originally Posted by grubbymitts

According to the Service Status, NTL are going to be revamping their Newsgroup support soon. Anyone have any idea what this is going to entail? I'd hate to see another cull of the binaries. I have to get my tranny pr0n from somewhere

In which case sign up to http://www.guba.com (which stands for Gigantic Usenet Binary Archive)

It costs $10 a month (less than six quid at current exchange rates) and archives all sorts of binary groups as well as text ones.

[jtwn]

Originally Posted by iron25

Newsbin Pro is currently downloading at 360KBps from newshosting

Yeah, currently. Heard people with issues with nhs, and especially those > 6mbit, don't get me wrong though I do think they are in top league of providers.

[Mags]

Originally Posted by Graham

In which case sign up to http://www.guba.com (which stands for Gigantic Usenet Binary Archive)

It costs $10 a month (less than six quid at current exchange rates) and archives all sorts of binary groups as well as text ones.

And is definitely not safe for visiting from work!! May have a gander from home though

Mags

[Graham]

Originally Posted by Mags

And is definitely not safe for visiting from work!!

Depends where you work...!

[fork me]

Originally Posted by Rik

Hey kids!
Why not try www.newshosting.com unlimited newsgroup access for $14.99.
I did and havent looked back since!!

Errm, because I shouldn't have to!

I pay Ntl for broadband internet services which are supposed to include Usenet access.

If Ntl want to deduct the $14.99 from my bill then fine!

Fork Me

[bilal]

i think that ntl binary newsgroups are quite good and the retention is good as well and the files that are there are basically always complete, the only problem are some major groups have been deleted by them ...

The two servers i use are news.cable.ntlworld.com and news.ntli.net (this one has lots of different server names) Both as far as i know are different because when i ping them different ip addresses come up but would just like to ask are they both different???

Also how many connections does ntl allow to there newsgroup server because as far i know the more connections the more stable/faster the downloading speed although obviously i cant go above my 2mb line speed???

Also they should really have more information about newsgroups on there website such as the servers and connections and stuff like that.

[DieDieMyDarling]

I've just recently signed up with GigaNews, having got fed up trying the ntl newsgroups and hearing about experiences of other people i know, getting the best out of newsgroups.

I downloaded like crazy for the first few days, then pulled back a bit, and haven't really downloaded much the past few days, as i don't want ntl cutting me off.

Any other people use newsgroups? Any heavy users? What kind of useage are you getting through a month, and have you ever had any letters/warnings off ntl?

I know there's no official cap at the moment, so it's all a bit up in the air at the moment, but i'd like to find out other peoples experiences, and see if i can come to some sort of balance, on what to download per day/week/month, and not have to worry about incurring the wrath of ntl.

[ian@huth]

There is an official usage policy at the moment but it isn't being enforced. I would expect that to change in the very near future in light of todays announcement.