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Old 28-06-2005, 11:53   #31
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Re: AA introduces speed camera map

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Maybe instead of complaining about the AA printing camera locations or the actual fact that there are speed cameras in use all over the road networks, maybe it's time to ask the car manufaturers why they produce cars that can go at speeds in excess of 120Mph when the speed limits in most countries are significantly lower. Maybe it's time that manufacturers produced a car that has a top speed of around 80Mph but are cleaner and more fuel efficient
Supply and demand.

We want cars that can break the speed limit.

Manufacturers already produce pokey little 0.8L cars that are very effiicient and only have a top speed of about 80-90mph.

Have you seen lots of them around??? No thought not.

I have a 2.0 saloon. I do in excess of 30,000 miles a year and I want a big comfortable car for the long motorway journeys. I also want the power to overtake large wagons.
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Old 28-06-2005, 12:09   #32
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Re: AA introduces speed camera map

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Maybe instead of complaining about the AA printing camera locations or the actual fact that there are speed cameras in use all over the road networks, maybe it's time to ask the car manufaturers why they produce cars that can go at speeds in excess of 120Mph when the speed limits in most countries are significantly lower. Maybe it's time that manufacturers produced a car that has a top speed of around 80Mph but are cleaner and more fuel efficient
It is a by-product of producing more powerful or bigger engines. A 1l engine 4 cylinder as to work harder than a 2l 6 cyclinder. This impacts reliability. A bigger engine can pootle along at the same speed as a 1l engine at a much lower rpm. Motorbike engines rpm up into the 15ks because the engines are so small. You can't increase low end performance, or engine displacement without increasing the engine's top speed.

The solution to what you would be saying is to electronically cap the car's performance at 80 or 90, like BMW do at 155mph. This makes sense but for all intents and purposes is redundant. That category of speeding is relatively rare. What is more worrying for police and safety groups, are people doing 40mph in a 30mph zone, not 90mph in a 70mph motorway. This is where the most accidents and fatalities occur. Capping the speedo at 70 won't stop this.
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Old 28-06-2005, 12:12   #33
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the speedo tolerance is +10% -0%

in other words, if your car is going at 30 but the speedo says 29, it will have to be adjusted. if it says 33 however, this is on the limit of being ok.
No offense but can you prove that now? linky to current regs etc
Because I'm sure that I have read that it has been changed but don't know where to look for that.
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Re: AA introduces speed camera map

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the speedo tolerance is +10% -0%

in other words, if your car is going at 30 but the speedo says 29, it will have to be adjusted. if it says 33 however, this is on the limit of being ok.
No offense but can you prove that now? linky to current regs etc
Because I'm sure that I have read that it has been changed but don't know where to look for that.
I saw this if it helps
http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_...ge/The_Law.htm
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...7638.pdf&e=747
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Old 28-06-2005, 13:13   #35
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Re: AA introduces speed camera map

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No offense but can you prove that now? linky to current regs etc
Because I'm sure that I have read that it has been changed but don't know where to look for that.
had a good nosey round but can't seem to find positive evidence of what the accuracy must be...
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Don't speed and you don't get fined by the camera's?
I agree with that, I hate speeders!



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I agree with that, I hate speeders!



I agree - I hate speeders! Especially when you wake up and one's on the pillow
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Re: AA introduces speed camera map

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I agree - I hate speeders! Especially when you wake up and one's on the pillow
We're probably talking about different things...and I think I get points for being ontopic ...tho am intrigued to know what you think a speeder is?
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Re: AA introduces speed camera map

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We're probably talking about different things...and I think I get points for being ontopic ...tho am intrigued to know what you think a speeder is?
Y'know - speeders! 8 legged things that eat insects and scare girls

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I agree with that, I hate speeders!
If I'm on a road stuck behind a lorry which is going all over the place, in the vast majority of cases I'd be better off ahead and away from him. So I overtake him which means I'm temporarily exceeding the speed limit although the conditions are ideal and I can see the road is clear.

Then a speed camera snaps me.

Hardly fair, is it?
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If I'm on a road stuck behind a lorry which is going all over the place, in the vast majority of cases I'd be better off ahead and away from him.
if it's going all over the place, then overtaking sure ain't safe!

assuming that most overtaking happens at national speed limit areas, lorries etc. should be doing 10mph under your speed limit... maybe what we need is a camera that can differentiate between a car and a hgv/lgv? (i.e. a police officer!)
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I annoys me is when your in say a 3 line mway and a HGV is in lane one... a smarmy git swooshes past in lane 2 as all three of us are going over the speed camera tracers!....so he gets away with zooming over the limit but being hidden by a HGV!


...just hope the camera doesn't think I'm the one with the sonic boom and flashes me!
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if it's going all over the place, then overtaking sure ain't safe!

assuming that most overtaking happens at national speed limit areas, lorries etc. should be doing 10mph under your speed limit... maybe what we need is a camera that can differentiate between a car and a hgv/lgv? (i.e. a police officer!)
It could happen on a B road where we should all be going 30mph and there could be plenty of reasons why someone may need to accelerate briefly. As long as they are not doing it dangerously, the driving conditions are good and no-one is at any risk of any harm then I don't see why they should be penalised and the police feel exactly the same way, that's why if you're going about 75+ on a motorway on a clear dry day with nobody else about, in all likelihood they won't batter an eyelid.
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It could happen on a B road where we should all be going 30mph and there could be plenty of reasons why someone may need to accelerate briefly. As long as they are not doing it dangerously, the driving conditions are good and no-one is at any risk of any harm then I don't see why they should be penalised and the police feel exactly the same way, that's why if you're going about 75+ on a motorway on a clear dry day with nobody else about, in all likelihood they won't batter an eyelid.
i know what you're saying, and i do agree with you... the emphasis should be on safe and considered driving.

i heard of an experiment where all but the bare minimum road signs/markings were removed to try to get drivers to actually think about what they're doing... does anyone know anything about this or been through it?
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It could happen on a B road where we should all be going 30mph and there could be plenty of reasons why someone may need to accelerate briefly. As long as they are not doing it dangerously, the driving conditions are good and no-one is at any risk of any harm then I don't see why they should be penalised and the police feel exactly the same way, that's why if you're going about 75+ on a motorway on a clear dry day with nobody else about, in all likelihood they won't batter an eyelid.
This is fine if we assume that drivers are careful and considerate. Many drivers are complete arses who think they're the only ones on the road with absolutely no consideration for anyone else .
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